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Old 06-08-2009, 01:40 AM
 
Location: In my skin
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But they have a shot, unlike men like me.


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Not all men find large women attractive, but allot do. If you do not believe me just google "BBW" (Big Beautiful Women)
That was not in dispute. You're not "in the know" of something we all aren't, so proof of that is worthless. It is the only rational statement you have made, but you contradicted yourself. You said for every woman, there is a man who will be attracted to her. You offered specialty porn as proof. Now, not all men find large women attractive, but a lot do.

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You can only fit so much in a title, ANY TITLE. I did not read anything about a piece of fruit that ran on gears, so should I demand
a refund on my copy of "The Clockwork Orange?"
You wrote it in your OP as well. Go back and read it.

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I said myself, look at the porn men view...large women, skinny women, old women, yound women, women in wheelchairs, women with acme etc etc etc. That evidence for men's varied taste on women.
That is evidence of varying tastes; not in dispute. It is not evidence that every woman will have someone who will find them beautiful. Are you dizzy yet?

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Show me ONE EXAMPLE of a woman PREFERRING TROLLS/SHORTMEN/FAT MEN etc along with a link to it and I will shut up about this forever and concede defeat. All I ask is evidence which I have provided (again, just google "BBW") and you have not. Again, find me any evidence that any woman PREREFERS someone who looks like that.
I don't care whether you concede or not. I am challenging your claims that cover an entire gender (women) and group (men like you). You are the one making these ridiculous assertions; it is up to you to back them up. Have you done the research on trolls/short men/fat men? I'm betting you haven't.

The reality is that porn does not necessarily depict real life for everyone, nor do my (or your) experiences or lack thereof. So, I don't need to show you proof of anything when that alone is a fact.

Go to a gunfight with a toothpick and "concede" all you want. You lost the moment you chose the toothpick.

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It is the whole "and" word being ignored that gets me....

Again, you get looked at like a piece of meat AND you get posistive attention. Men like me (again, the plural of "man" is being used) do not
recieve either.
I saw the "and"; the latter was not what I took issue with. Again, speaking on behalf of men like you (plural), invalidates your argument when you have no "proof" that this is true for all of them.

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Where did I mention charity? I am talking about thoughts and thoughts are not charity...I have yet to see a telephon in which the
hist asked people to "think really hard" and not give something. Once again, you seem to have a reading comprehension problem...
Comprehend this:

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There all also scores of people who will never think of starving people in Somalia when they get angry that they can't buy a new
sports car. Same thing. People taking what they have for granted. Human nature I suppose.
YOU wrote that. Those who don't think of you and those like you are the same as those who don't think about starving people in Somalia. There are charities for starving people, aren't there? YOU wanted to effect urgency/pity/sympathy (that charities depend on, BTW) that is nothing more than a bitter, overbloated sense of entitlement because nature wasn't kind to you.

Aside from your attitude, I'd recommend dance lessons. You tripped your way through this one.
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:59 AM
 
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That was not in dispute. You're not "in the know" of something we all aren't, so proof of that is worthless. It is the only rational statement you have made, but you contradicted yourself. You said for every woman, there is a man who will be attracted to her. You offered specialty porn as proof. Now, not all men find large women attractive, but a lot do.
Of course. Like I said, allot do.

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You wrote it in your OP as well. Go back and read it.
No, I did not.


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That is evidence of varying tastes; not in dispute. It is not evidence that every woman will have someone who will find them beautiful. Are you dizzy yet?
Well, if you find them hot enough to sleep with, that is what most people would call "beautiful" now isn't it?...

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I don't care whether you concede or not. I am challenging your claims that cover an entire gender (women) and group (men like you). You are the one making these ridiculous assertions; it is up to you to back them up. Have you done the research on trolls/short men/fat men? I'm betting you haven't.
Actually, I have:
ABCNEWS.com : Taller Men More Likely to Marry

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The reality is that porn does not necessarily depict real life for everyone, nor do my (or your) experiences or lack thereof.
It does depict what a certain market of people (i.e., men who find large/older/ etc women hot) like. If men did not find them hot, that market would not exist.

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Go to a gunfight with a toothpick and "concede" all you want. You lost the moment you chose the toothpick.
No, you lost the moment you decided to use only opinions, while I give links to studies and things that you can actually google on your own.


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I saw the "and"; the latter was not what I took issue with. Again, speaking on behalf of men like you (plural), invalidates your argument when you have no "proof" that this is true for all of them.
Proof:

ABCNEWS.com : Taller Men More Likely to Marry







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YOU wrote that. Those who don't think of you and those like you are the same as those who don't think about starving people in Somalia. There are charities for starving people, aren't there? YOU wanted to effect urgency/pity/sympathy (that charities depend on, BTW) that is nothing more than a bitter, overbloated sense of entitlement because nature wasn't kind to you.
I said this...I will place the words in question in red to help with your obvious reading comprehension problem
[There all also scores of people who will never think of starving people in Somalia when they get angry that they can't buy a new
sports car. Same thing. People taking what they have for granted. Human nature I suppose.]

Charity is an action, :
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: generosity and helpfulness especially toward the needy or suffering ; also : aid given to those in need b: an institution engaged in relief of the poor c: public provision for the relief of the needy3 a: a gift for public benevolent purposes b: an institution (as a hospital) founded by such a gift
charity - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
I am speaking of thoughts. Taking something for granted is a THOUGHT. That is what I was clearly speaking of.

Also, as I said, but you choose to ignore, I did say this:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/9126606-post37.html

I do not need "charity of sympathty" and never stated or implied at much. I could be quite happy without a female in my life.

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Aside from your attitude, I'd recommend dance lessons. You tripped your way through this one.
Actually, considering I actually post links and use real information to back my claims, while you can barely manage third grade reading comprehension, it is more like a flew through the air and kicked you in the face Shaolin style.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Of course ugly people have trouble attracting anyone, duh, what's the big mystery here?! But there are enough ugly people, probably about 5 out of 10 people are ugly and only at best 1 is good looking, so you should be able to find other ugly people to date. LOL.
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:42 AM
 
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No. It's a part of something called "denial"
Yes. Yours.

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I think that I could do just fine without a female in my life.
That's a good thing. As I said, you aren't doing anything to improve your odds.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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On what planet do YOU live? Frankly, I think anyone you ask will tell you that there are certainly people, male and female, that simply are so physically unattractive that you wouldn't get ANYONE to look at them and think "man that is hot stuff". However, that does not preclude those people from ever finding someone that will appreciate their other qualities.

I've caught a few of your earlier posts, and I can only say that I hope you are in therapy.

He is. It's called the Relationships forum..........
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Yes, and as I said, the women will like a man because of his personality but inspite of his looks, not because of them.

Can you imagine being with someone and knowing, in the back of your head, that they are not physically attracted to you? That will probably be my fate and the fate of other men like me and it is a very depressing thought.
Not depressing at all. It beats not being with anyone at all............
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh's 'EAST SIDE'
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Man, I ain't reading that dissertation! WTF?!
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:36 AM
 
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The title of this thread should be "I have low self-esteem, so I come to irrational conclusions about human sexuality"
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:47 AM
 
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You're upset at women because they are not physically attracted to men who look like "trolls"?
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Bay Area
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Birds of a feather flock together....have you ever notice couples often look alike? I think sometimes we find a mate who looks similar to us to confirm our own beauty...

So find yourself a nice troll woman and you will live happily ever after.
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