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Uh, no. I'm talking about how society views it. I don't care if a person is bi-sexual or "bi-curious". They just need to be honest. I hate it when bi-sexual people claim they're heterosexual. If they're sexually attracted to the same sex then they aren't straight.
Yes, it is selfish when anyone cheats. I've heard about this "DL" phenomenon, and obviously, it's not just an AA thing. Everyone, regardless of race, has participated in this.
It isn't an AA phenomenon at all. I hate that down low argument also. In my opinion it is a great way to pass the blame to the 'sneaky gays' instead of focusing our efforts towards a solution.
There are still straight men and straight women engaging in unsafe sexual activity who pass the HIV virus to others and themselves. Many people still point the blame at the closeted gay men, a great way to keep the hysteria train rolling and to distract from the more important issue at hand, why this is happening and what we need to be doing about it.
Uh, no. I'm talking about how society views it. I don't care if a person is bi-sexual or "bi-curious". They just need to be honest. I hate it when bi-sexual people claim they're heterosexual. If they're sexually attracted to the same sex then they aren't straight.
I will pose the same question that I posed someone else here. In your opinion, would a gay person who is "bicurious" or "heterocurious" be considered really a straight man or woman?
If that is something you experience, it doesn't happen very often. Married men who are outed don't get much sympathy from anyone.
Nope, not my experience. But all you have to do is look around at how people who have went public with their "out of closet experience" are treated. They're called "brave" and hailed by the GLBT lobbies. They go on tour and get book deals.
I'm thinking specifically of Guv McGreevey who left office because he had given his male lover a good job in his administration, even though the guy wasn't qualified. McGreevey paraded his wife at press conferences and such. It was only a bit later that SHE spoke out while going through the divorce proceedings and called him on his lies and hurtful behavior. She wound up broken-hearted and he's doing fine.
To some degree, you're right but it's not just about GLBTs -- anyone who isn't interested in traditional marriage is considered odd, and that includes those of us who are heterosexual and happily single. It's truly a bizarre norm to insist on, considering that about half of marriages fail. Society holds up marriage as the glowing example and expected norm for EVERYONE, even though there's a huge failure rate.
I completely agree with you.
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Personally, I think that the state needs to get out of the marriage business. Let adults set up households or not with whomever they choose. Marriage should not be given special tax privileges or incentives and it should NOT be forced on people as "the norm." Those who are religious and see marriage as something sacred can always have a church ceremony. But society should NOT be pushing one lifestyle over another or giving some people incentives while dissing others. That's discrimination.
Yes, I completely agree again.
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I think that if we were to do this, it would get rid of a lot of tension and hang-ups. By extension, it would reduce perversion and sexual rebellion, which often comes as a result of unhappiness and frustration. Will Puritannical America ever do this? I hope so but probably not.
Exactly. I think you hit the needle on the head with this post. +1 rep.
[quote=teatime;9461232]Nope, not my experience. But all you have to do is look around at how people who have went public with their "out of closet experience" are treated. They're called "brave" and hailed by the GLBT lobbies. They go on tour and get book deals.
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I'm thinking specifically of Guv McGreevey who left office because he had given his male lover a good job in his administration, even though the guy wasn't qualified.
Talking about gaydar? That's when mine started to twitch. Being from NJ, when that story broke the rumors flew fast and furious about McGreevey and Golan Cipel, the guy who turned out to be the "other man."
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McGreevey paraded his wife at press conferences and such. It was only a bit later that SHE spoke out while going through the divorce proceedings and called him on his lies and hurtful behavior. She wound up broken-hearted and he's doing fine.
I will pose the same question that I posed someone else here. In your opinion, would a gay person who is "bicurious" or "heterocurious" be considered really a straight man or woman?
Nope, not my experience. But all you have to do is look around at how people who have went public with their "out of closet experience" are treated. They're called "brave" and hailed by the GLBT lobbies. They go on tour and get book deals.
Although I do not condone sham hetero marriages, as a gay man, I am a bit partial to the idea that society has a powerful influence on people, and that is why they end up in the situations they do.
It sounds like you're speaking in generalizations about GLBT people. I wouldn't call these specific people "brave," but I applaud them for (finally) being honest. It's just very embarassing for the spouses involved. They have a right to be angry.
OK. That's their prerogative, but I thought heterosexuals were people who exclusively had sex with the opposite sex. If you are a man, and you like women, you are hetero. If you are a man, and you like women and men, you are bisexual, which means you are not heterosexual. If you are a man, and you like men, you are homosexual, or gay. That's how I thought it always worked.
That's how it is, not just how you thought it worked.
Making up new definitions to pretend everyone likes or participates in homosexual activity is just another PC psyop.
Not to mention a lie.
It's like a guy in prison who has/forces sex with another man. He claims he's not homosexual. If he has sex with a man, he is homosexual or bisexual. If he's a victim, he is a rape victim.
Although I do not condone sham hetero marriages, as a gay man, I am a bit partial to the idea that society has a powerful influence on people, and that is why they end up in the situations they do.
It sounds like you're speaking in generalizations about GLBT people. I wouldn't call these specific people "brave," but I applaud them for (finally) being honest. It's just very embarassing for the spouses involved. They have a right to be angry.
I'm really not talking about the individual gay experience because I don't know what that's like (not being gay myself) -- just the phenomenon it can be made into, and this phenomenon tends to push aside the wife and her very real hurt. It's all about him "being honest with himself," which is celebrated, and very dismissive of the woman who served his purposes and is then cast off.
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