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This is a question that we've tossed around a few times. Generally believers tend to just accept the existence of God on faith alone and don't question how or why he came into being. I don't believe there is a God and since we can't even prove that God exists we certainly don't have any information about how he might have come into existence in the first place. I suspect that many people just imagine God as somehow existing outside of the laws of nature and that explanations about the nature of God and where he came from aren't really necessary.
This is a question that we've tossed around a few times. Generally believers tend to just accept the existence of God on faith alone and don't question how or why he came into being. I don't believe there is a God and since we can't even prove that God exists we certainly don't have any information about how he might have come into existence in the first place. I suspect that many people just imagine God as somehow existing outside of the laws of nature and that explanations about the nature of God and where he came from aren't really necessary.
We live outside the laws of everything we've created.
Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?
Does it make believers seem somehow less intelligent or rational?
I don't have to consume gas to move around, but my car does.
I don't have to plug into electricity to work, but my computer does.
The ball on my front lawn has to have a force to cause it to move, mine comes from my brain.
All of these things operate by different 'laws' than their creator operates under.
Why is difficult to grasp our Creator does the same.
It's quite logical and easy to grasp, in my opinion.
This is a question that we've tossed around a few times. Generally believers tend to just accept the existence of God on faith alone and don't question how or why he came into being. I don't believe there is a God and since we can't even prove that God exists we certainly don't have any information about how he might have come into existence in the first place. I suspect that many people just imagine God as somehow existing outside of the laws of nature and that explanations about the nature of God and where he came from aren't really necessary.
It's not really that explanations are not necessary. It's just that something existed eternally or came into being "uncaused." Whether that something is a molecule, a vapor, a force, anything...Theists, coupled with a whole lot of other evidence for God, just believe that it is more reasonable to believe in God (who would by definition be totally outside the realm of anything else) rather than some other "natural" something which would have no reason to be separate or different from anything else in the "natural" world. Does this make sense?
It's not really that explanations are not necessary. It's just that something existed eternally or came into being "uncaused." Whether that something is a molecule, a vapor, a force, anything...Theists, coupled with a whole lot of other evidence for God, just believe that it is more reasonable to believe in God (who would by definition be totally outside the realm of anything else) rather than some other "natural" something which would have no reason to be separate or different from anything else in the "natural" world. Does this make sense?
"There is only one reality. That reality is God. The soul of man must contact God, and unless the spirit of man is truly joined to God, there is no such thing as real Christian manifestation." --John G. Lake
Most theists (myself included) believe that God is eternal, uncaused, outside time and space, unlimited therefore, by natural laws.
It is interesting, then, why anything other than God would exist today. Do you have an explanation?
Why is there a need to believe that God exists, other than as a catch-all idea to account for things that human beings today don't understand. This is the "God of the gaps" criticism of theism.
Also, if you hadn't been taught about religious ideas as a child, would you today believe in God? If you had taught as a child to believe in Krisha, that is most likely what you would believe as an adult.
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It is interesting, then, why anything other than God would exist today. Do you have an explanation?
Why is there a need to believe that God exists, other than as a catch-all idea to account for things that human beings today don't understand.
Also, if you hadn't been taught about religious ideas as a child, would you today believe in God? If you had taught as a child to believe in Krisha, that is most likely what you would believe as an adult.
Well, obviously, Christians believe that other things exist because God created them. He wanted them to be here.
I personally don't feel I have a "need" to believe in a deity. I just think it's logical. I grew up in a theistic but non-religious home and yes, that probably did pre-dispose me to believe in God. However, as I posted under "why I believe" in the ask a Christian thread, I think there are other reasons. The short answer is Jesus. He radiates the essence of truth IMO. He is a very compelling, unexpected character.
Well, obviously, Christians believe that other things exist because God created them. He wanted them to be here.
I personally don't feel I have a "need" to believe in a deity. I just think it's logical. I grew up in a theistic but non-religious home and yes, that probably did pre-dispose me to believe in God. However, as I posted under "why I believe" in the ask a Christian thread, I think there are other reasons. The short answer is Jesus. He radiates the essence of truth IMO. He is a very compelling, unexpected character.
I don't know why you don't believe in evolution then, because you certainly have a very low threshold of demonstrability for you belief -- that is, to believe something such as Christianity that is so deep and all-encompassing yet is based on such a collection of questionable stories authored 2,000 years ago.
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Eternal God...
What she said!
