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Summary: The Exodus Revealed video, directed by Lad Allen and funded by Discovery (Institute?) Media Productions, is based on The Exodus Case book by Lennart Moller, which is based on the "discoveries" of Ron Wyatt. Both the video and the book include photos of a gold wheel supposedly found in the Gulf of Aqaba, presented as proof that the Bible's Red Sea crossing story is true. But a TV producer's wife "was told by one of Ron Wyatt's sons that the chariot wheels that Ron supposedly discovered in the Gulf of Aqaba were planted there by Ron." Also, John Baumgardner, who is a Christian and initially believed Wyatt and inspected Wyatt's Noah's ark "discovery", later wrote that "I am almost 100% certain that Ron 'planted' them [rivets on the Ark]." Despite this and much more evidence that Ron Wyatt was a crazy liar, both Lennart Moller and Lad Allen were insidiously dishonest in promoting Wyatt's "findings" without disclosing Wyatt's history of fraud. [See the link below for more on Wyatt, much more.
It's the money in your wallet that they are interested in, not your blindness.
They never asked me for money. Not once in my year and a half of attending their congregation. All money was donation-based and I never made a donation. In fact they bought me countless meals and bought me clothes and offered to put me up with them when there was a chance I would be homeless. They drove me around to find apartments and volunteered to interpret for my job interviews, etc. etc.
However they did specifically target the deaf, blind, and deaf-blind. The fact they knew how to communicate with me as a deaf-blind person was very unusual in and of itself. Many of the people in this congregation had studied ASL for the specific purpose of communication with deaf and deaf-blind people. They also brought all their materials to me in braille format, including the Bible itself. They even bought me my own Braille bible as a gift. By the way Braille bibles are huge and take up a whole shelf on a wall. One braille Bible is about twice as many "black boxes" as photographed here:
Very, very ironic, IMO.
What they wanted wasn't my money. What they wanted was me to believe in a Bible that also said I could not approach the altar. What they wanted was me to get baptized. When I started expressing doubts about the Bible being true and informed them I didn't plan on getting baptized, their help and support ended immediately.
All of that to get me to believe in a book that tells me I can't get into Heaven anyway?
Last edited by nimchimpsky; 04-20-2011 at 08:27 AM..
God is not looking at your disabilities from the outside. He is looking at the ones inside of you. God used the obvious outward disability to show the people that perfection is required to enter heaven. Everyone born into this world, has a spiritual disability. And until that disability is removed, no one enters heaven. And that is why Jesus tells us we need to be born again. We all need a spiritual rebirth to remove the spiritual disability, that seperates us from God.
Why does the Bible specify and list physical disabilities if what it's really about is spiritual ones?
FWIW, I do agree that what stands between us and God (in the sense of the eternal source of love and peace) is spiritual disability. But I just don't get the idea that that's what the Bible is saying.
Why does the Bible specify and list physical disabilities if what it's really about is spiritual ones?
FWIW, I do agree that what stands between us and God (in the sense of the eternal source of love and peace) is spiritual disability. But I just don't get the idea that that's what the Bible is saying.
It's not.But since he can't accept that the God the ancient Jews worhipped was thought to discrminate against the disabled and deformed,he has to find something,however implausible,to explain it all away.Or admit the Bible wasn't inspired by God.He can't accept either,so his brain short circuits from having to choose between opposing wrongs and spits out "It's all just symbolic of Heaven".
Like I have said many times,they will rewrite,change the rules,reinterpret things however they wish to avoid reality.There is not a shred of honest integrity in their approach.
Summary: The Exodus Revealed video, directed by Lad Allen and funded by Discovery (Institute?) Media Productions, is based on The Exodus Case book by Lennart Moller, which is based on the "discoveries" of Ron Wyatt. Both the video and the book include photos of a gold wheel supposedly found in the Gulf of Aqaba, presented as proof that the Bible's Red Sea crossing story is true. But a TV producer's wife "was told by one of Ron Wyatt's sons that the chariot wheels that Ron supposedly discovered in the Gulf of Aqaba were planted there by Ron." Also, John Baumgardner, who is a Christian and initially believed Wyatt and inspected Wyatt's Noah's ark "discovery", later wrote that "I am almost 100% certain that Ron 'planted' them [rivets on the Ark]." Despite this and much more evidence that Ron Wyatt was a crazy liar, both Lennart Moller and Lad Allen were insidiously dishonest in promoting Wyatt's "findings" without disclosing Wyatt's history of fraud. [See the link below for more on Wyatt, much more.
Mollers book was not about slaming Wyatt who had already passed away. And presenting evidence of he said, she said would be questionable at best. Nor was Dr. Mollers total evidence based on one gold wheel found by Wyatt. Mollers book is hundred of pages long. And again, it is not just Mollers team who has confirmed the two finding of the Red Sea crossing and Mt. Sinia. If you can ignore all the others who have provided us with video and still shots of the area. Then you are free to continually point at Wyatt and pretend it's only his evidence the discovery is based on. However, that belief would have little to do with the actual truth. Now days you must tie all the others in with an on going fraud. And that is going to be really hard to do. Unless you are willing to push some kind of conspiracy theory.
Mollers book was not about slaming Wyatt who had already passed away. And presenting evidence of he said, she said would be questionable at best. Nor was Dr. Mollers total evidence based on one gold wheel found by Wyatt. Mollers book is hundred of pages long. And again, it is not just Mollers team who has confirmed the two finding of the Red Sea crossing and Mt. Sinia. If you can ignore all the others who have provided us with video and still shots of the area. Then you are free to continually point at Wyatt and pretend it's only his evidence the discovery is based on. However, that belief would have little to do with the actual truth. Now days you must tie all the others in with an on going fraud. And that is going to be really hard to do. Unless you are willing to push some kind of conspiracy theory.
A conspiracy amongst fundie Christian explorers desperate to offer some shred of proof for biblical claims?No way man!!!They would never stoop to that.
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