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If you don't believe in God that is a personal decision. Why does this necessitate an all-out verbal assault on those that do believe in God or some manner of religion? There are quite a few atheists on this board who I'd swear couldn't say anything nice to a person of faith if their life depended on it. If you have facts and information go ahead and cite it. But why the name-calling, condescending tone? Why is it so important to chime in with "There is no God you're all idiots!!" in every conversation no matter what? Why interject your heart-felt contempt for one particular religion when that religion has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand? When did repeating the same thing over and over again ever start being a convincing argument?
Lightning Bolt Juggler If you don't believe in God that is a personal decision. Why does this necessitate an all-out verbal assault on those that do believe in God or some manner of religion?....
It's because they feel under attack by Christianity. They accuse Christians of trying to force religious beliefs down their throats via trying to ban evolutionist teachings from public schools. So since they think we have a jihad going against them they feel justified in a jihad of their own.
Golden Oldie We atheists need to become more visible and less intimidated by the public's disdain. But we need to work at being less abrasive when doing so
Excuse me but I really don't see atheists intimidated and timidly going about their business as you seem to be indicating. What I see is a very agressive modus operandi on all fronts. Motion pictures support atheistic evolution. Public schools support it. Educational programs on cable such as Discovery Channel actively support it via only presenting the atheistic view from atheist scientists. All branches of so-called higher learning support it and expect student and professor compliance with it. Biology, zooology, anthropology textbooks at all educational levels are required to give only the atheistic view. So I really don't see the desperate need for more visibility and the anti-atheist persecutory public-disdain environment you are referring to. Care to explain?
Excuse me but I really don't see atheists intimidated and timidly going about their business as you seem to be indicating. What I see is a very agressive modus operandi on all fronts. Motion pictures support atheistic evolution. Public schools support it. Educational programs on cable such as Discovery Channel actively support it via only presenting the atheistic view from atheist scientists. All branches of so-called higher learning support it and expect student and professor compliance with it. Biology, zooology, anthropology textbooks at all educational levels are required to give only the atheistic view. So I really don't see the desperate need for more visibility and the anti-atheist persecutory public-disdain environment you are referring to. Care to explain?
Evolution is not the atheist view. Atheism and evolution aren't synonymous, and nor are theism and creationism. There are people who believe evolution was guided or overlooked by God and there are religious theists who believe in evolution.
Evolution is not the atheist view. Atheism and evolution aren't synonymous,....
Doesn't the context of my statement inidicate clearly that I am referring to atheistic evolution? Evolution as taught in public schools makes no mention of the possibility of a deity being involved. In fact, that's what the biblical fundamentalist protests are all about. That's common knowledge.
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....and nor are theism and creationism. There are people who believe evolution was guided or overlooked by God and there are religious theists who believe in evolution.
I know. The question is what leads you to believe that I don't know. Care to explain?
well I would say I am a secular humanist which is a atheist type of view
Secular Humanism is a comprehensive life stance that focuses on the way human beings can lead happy and functional lives. Though it posits that human beings are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or God, it neither assumes humans to be inherently or innately good, nor presents humans as "above nature" or superior to it. Rather, the Humanist life stance emphasizes the unique responsibility facing humanity and the ethical consequences of human decisions.
No, the problem isn't that I can't read, the problem is you can't make a cogent point in a non-traditional format.
You're asking atheists to get real about evidence, is that right? If you're a person of faith, evidence should be the last thing on your mind, by definition.
Excuse me but I really don't see atheists intimidated and timidly going about their business as you seem to be indicating. What I see is a very agressive modus operandi on all fronts. Motion pictures support atheistic evolution. Public schools support it. Educational programs on cable such as Discovery Channel actively support it via only presenting the atheistic view from atheist scientists. All branches of so-called higher learning support it and expect student and professor compliance with it. Biology, zooology, anthropology textbooks at all educational levels are required to give only the atheistic view. So I really don't see the desperate need for more visibility and the anti-atheist persecutory public-disdain environment you are referring to. Care to explain?
Places of learning and the Discovery Channel don't include the "atheistic" viewpoint. They merely operate under the assumption that evolution is fact. Because it is.
The day creationism comes up with more than "I hope", they'll do a cute documentary about it, I'm sure.
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