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IF... we were to accept as some in this thread are arguing... that homosexuality ("sexual relations with persons of the same sex") is nature's doing, why don't we just blame all behavior on nature? If it is accepted that one can't help how they act, they were just "born" that way... what does that imply for those with other sexual deviations?
In 1981, Dr. Theo Sandfort, co-director of the research program of the Department of Gay and Lesbian Studies at the University of Utrecht, Netherlands, interviewed 25 boys aged 10 to 16 who were currently involved in sexual relationships with adult men. The interviews took place in the homes of the men. According to Sandfort, "For virtually all the boys ... the sexual contact itself was experienced positively..." Could an adult-child sexual contact, then, truly be called positive for the child? Based on the research presented, Sandfort answered that question in the affirmative." On the Pedophilia Issue: What the APA Should Have Known
What does this wildly inaccurate misinformation from a homophobic fringe group like NARTH (who are well known for distorting facts) have to do with the OP's question about homosexuality being nature's way of population control?
And what does pedophilia have to do with homosexuality?
This seems to be just another excuse for a "smear and fear" rant to vilify gay people - and has nothing at all to do with the OP.
This whole discussion is another reason why I reject the idea of a personal god. Why would an omnipotent creator be so concerned with the sex lives of human beings? Especially since, assuming such a creator exists, he gave those urges (whether gay or straight) to people. It's absurd.
It was either human sexuality as we know or binary fission (dividing like amoebas).
And what does pedophilia have to do with homosexuality?
I think the above poster was trying to point out that homosexuality and pedophilia are related in that they both describe human sexual behaviour. If a person is homosexual from birth, the same can be safely assumed when it comes to the kiddie-fiddlers. There is a lot of inneundo going around that would equate homosexuality with pedophilia, but the moral equivalency just isn't there. It can be insinuated, but it isn't there.
It is not about hate ,When you think that this behavior is wrong it does not mean you hate anyone .
It is only a matter of opinion...
There is wright & wrong .. nothing in between ...
If a sexual relationship between men and women is wright & normal then the sexual relationship between same-sex must be wrong & of curse not normal ...
As far as I know there is no such thing as homosexual genes it mean that this behavior comes from experiencess and surrounding circumstances .
That behavior often (not always) comes with someone Male/Female who has lived in feminine/masculine vicinity or exposed to a sexual experience with the same sex at a young age .
Hermaphrodite ...now that is something else .
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The majority of these animals having homosexual sex are also having heterosexual sex, as far as I'm aware. Pure homosexuality does exist in nature bit it's rarer.
It is not about hate ,When you think that this behavior is wrong it does not mean you hate anyone .
It is only a matter of opinion...
There is wright & wrong .. nothing in between ...
If a sexual relationship between men and women is wright & normal then the sexual relationship between same-sex must be wrong & of curse not normal ...
As far as I know there is no such thing as homosexual genes it mean that this behavior comes from experiencess and surrounding circumstances .
That behavior often (not always) comes with someone Male/Female who has lived in feminine/masculine vicinity or exposed to a sexual experience with the same sex at a young age .
Hermaphrodite ...now that is something else .
Again, what does wildly misinformed post this have to do with the OP's question? I suppose my response will end up deleted, if off-topic posts are being deleted. But anyway....
How are hate and bigotry NOT involved when someone deliberately chooses disreputable, discredited, non-evidence based anti-gay propaganda articles as sources of their misinformation, over reputable, peer-reviewed evidence based information sources. The facts from reputable sources are easy to find.
This strongly suggests that this choice reflects a person's need to vilify gay people rather find out the facts.
Many of the sources of misinformation about gay people and homosexuality have been categorised as 'hate' groups BECAUSE they have a known history of "propagation of known falsehoods — claims about LGBT people that have been thoroughly discredited by scientific authorities — and repeated, groundless name-calling. Viewing homosexuality as unbiblical does not qualify organizations for listing as hate groups."
The majority of these animals having homosexual sex are also having heterosexual sex, as far as I'm aware. Pure homosexuality does exist in nature bit it's rarer.
I think the above poster was trying to point out that homosexuality and pedophilia are related in that they both describe human sexual behaviour. If a person is homosexual from birth, the same can be safely assumed when it comes to the kiddie-fiddlers. There is a lot of inneundo going around that would equate homosexuality with pedophilia, but the moral equivalency just isn't there. It can be insinuated, but it isn't there.
Yes I agree with you that "There is a lot of inneundo going around that would equate homosexuality with pedophilia, but the moral equivalency just isn't there"
Heterosexuality describes human sexual behavior as well. And considering the vast majority of regressed pedophiles (those who also have adult sexual attractions) who molest either girls or boys are heterosexuals, it seems rather disingenuous to try to use homosexuals as a comparison, does it not?
Since a large percentage of pedophiles (percentages range from aorund 25-75% depending on the study) were sexually abused themselves as children, and many have early brain injuries, or have co-morbid psychiatric disorders, no, it's not really 'safe' to assume that pedophiles are pedophiles from birth. There is some evidence that some pedophiles have some brain abnormalities in areas similiar to those shown in people with other addictions. None of this applies to homosexuals. Studies show there is no evidence that child sexual abuse or the way a child is raised causes them to be homosexual, and that homosexuality is not a mental illness.
If you want studies and articles from reputable peer-reviewed sources, I can back this up (and have on many occasions).
Pedophilia is a paraphilia. Heterosexuality and homosexuality are sexual orientations.
Equating or comparing homosexuals to pedophiles is just a typical "smear and fear" tactic by those who appear to have a strong need to spread misinformation to vilify gay people.
I think the above poster was trying to point out that homosexuality and pedophilia are related in that they both describe human sexual behaviour. If a person is homosexual from birth, the same can be safely assumed when it comes to the kiddie-fiddlers. There is a lot of inneundo going around that would equate homosexuality with pedophilia, but the moral equivalency just isn't there. It can be insinuated, but it isn't there.
No, actually the poster like most people ignorant of homosexuality, is probably equating pedophilia with homosexuals and assume most pedophiles are gay, when in fact the overwhelming majority are heterosexual.
It's a method of further demonizing gay people.
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If it is accepted that one can't help how they act, they were just "born" that way... what does that imply for those with other sexual deviations?
