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Old 08-07-2023, 10:26 PM
 
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who instruct Christians to use this meat at first? whereas in Jesus time nobody ate pig's meat. Saint Jesus himself ate from sheep's meat a bit often?
I haven't read all 26 pages of replies.

Sheep meat is called lamb.

Pig meat is pork. People ate pork since the beginning of time.

Matthew 15:11

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King James Bible
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

American Standard Version
Not that which entereth into the mouth defileth the man; but that which proceedeth out of the mouth, this defileth the man.

Contemporary English Version
The food you put into your mouth doesn't make you unclean and unfit to worship God. The bad words that come out of your mouth are what make you unclean."
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Acts 10:14
"No, Lord!" Peter answered. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."

Acts 10:15
The voice spoke to him a second time: "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."

1 Timothy 4:3
They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
Sheena12 - I agree with the horrors of factory farms and its dependence of antibiotics. It's not healthy to have drugs in our food. It also hurts us by producing germ resistant to antibiotics. We are damaging ourselves and animals with factory farms. It's easy enough to buy certified humane raised animals.

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Old 08-08-2023, 07:36 AM
 
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It's easy enough to buy certified humane raised animals.
If you have the $$ and do the research, sure. Or at least maybe.

Vox just published an investigative journalism piece entitled, "A new investigation exposes the stomach-churning practice that goes into making your bacon". After describing some really horrific cruelties filmed by investigators, they noted that the perpetrating company performed what's called "humanewashing" -- highlighting on their website their extensive commitments to "animal welfare, family farming, community and sustainability". But as the article describes, it's just words .. there's no actual enforceability, no legal definition of "humane" and no accountability. So it is clear that we can't believe such labeling or take it at face value. It's a bit like labeling that claims food is "all natural" -- it doesn't really MEAN anything. Even the label "organic" has gotten watered down somewhat.

In our area, we used to have a local butcher that worked only with local farmers and imposed their own standards, but they couldn't make a go of that business model for whatever reason. And their meat cost nearly twice what it did anywhere else, which probably had something to do with that.
 
Old 08-08-2023, 08:22 AM
 
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If you have the $$ and do the research, sure. Or at least maybe.

Vox just published an investigative journalism piece entitled, "A new investigation exposes the stomach-churning practice that goes into making your bacon". After describing some really horrific cruelties filmed by investigators, they noted that the perpetrating company performed what's called "humanewashing" -- highlighting on their website their extensive commitments to "animal welfare, family farming, community and sustainability". But as the article describes, it's just words .. there's no actual enforceability, no legal definition of "humane" and no accountability. So it is clear that we can't believe such labeling or take it at face value. It's a bit like labeling that claims food is "all natural" -- it doesn't really MEAN anything. Even the label "organic" has gotten watered down somewhat.

In our area, we used to have a local butcher that worked only with local farmers and imposed their own standards, but they couldn't make a go of that business model for whatever reason. And their meat cost nearly twice what it did anywhere else, which probably had something to do with that.
You're right! We really don't know what we are eating! I look for the Certified Humane label. https://certifiedhumane.org/overview/.

When I lived in Westchester NY, I shopped at Hemlock Hill Farm in Croton. It was the same price as the local butcher. The animals are raised free range on farmland. Some factory animals live and die without ever seeing sunlight or feel the ground beneath them.

The Omnivore’s Dilemma by Michael Pollan is a powerful book on the horrors of animal factory farms and the ramifications for our health. https://michaelpollan.com/books/the-omnivores-dilemma/
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