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Thank you for all those references. It illustrates so well how people read the same thing and understand it differently. When I read that verse from Numbers I understood it to mean that God is not fallible like us human beings in that he, being perfect, does not lie and has no need to repent because he commits no sins.
Thank you for all those references. It illustrates so well how people read the same thing and understand it differently. When I read that verse from Numbers I understood it to mean that God is not fallible like us human beings in that he, being perfect, does not lie and has no need to repent because he commits no sins.
I think the issue with the bible again is that people like to interpret the text verse reading the texts. Do not get me wrong the bible does need some interpretation. The only thing is the book of deut. is usually based on gods laws that were given to his people. People tend to read into things more than what the actual text implies.
If you look at numbers 23 and read deut 4 and job 9 you will see that the statements are consistent that god will never take human form.
I little more back ground. If you did not already know Christians believe that they really worship the same god that jews worship but they believe that Jesus was the messiah. What Christians do not understand that most of their practices come from pagan worship. This is more than likely happen under Constantine’s rule. The Roman Empire was big on pagan worship and having many gods. Most of the roman catholic churches idols and symbols come from pagan practices. For example the sun god RA (Baal) is shown on clothing the pope wears. Communion (Eating of the flesh or blood worship), Dec 25 Christmas is consider equinox so the sun is at rebirth and it usually dies near Easter. Sun-day worship is due to respect of RA. Moon day or Monday is very popular too. Jesus was the Son of God, which brought the light to the entire world. Mithra was the sun of god that also brought the light to the world.
The reason Jewish people do not consider Christian correct is because in Jeremiah g-d commanded is people not to follow people that were practicing these behaviors.
I could also give you the same reference for Easter,The Feast of the Assumption,......I could go on.
I think, I'll just respectfully agree to disagree with you.
Do you think the Catholic Church would deny Jesus? I don’t think so. I understand we can disagree on this matter. I find it very odd that pagan worship and Christianity were started in the same location. I find it odd that Mithraism and Christianity are about 95% exactly the same in rituals and beliefs. I would recommend looking at a brief history of Paul of tarsus. Paul was pretty much recognized as the founder of Christianity. Paul of tarsus lived in an area that was heavily pagan. Most of the Christian stories are exactly that of Mithraism. Constantine himself believe in many gods but chose to use Jesus as the Christ because on his death bed could say his name and be saved.
Do you think the Catholic Church would deny Jesus? I don’t think so. I understand we can disagree on this matter. I find it very odd that pagan worship and Christianity were started in the same location. I find it odd that Mithraism and Christianity are about 95% exactly the same in rituals and beliefs. I would recommend looking at a brief history of Paul of tarsus. Paul was pretty much recognized as the founder of Christianity. Paul of tarsus lived in an area that was heavily pagan. Most of the Christian stories are exactly that of Mithraism. Constantine himself believe in many gods but chose to use Jesus as the Christ because on his death bed could say his name and be saved.
I think you'd find that the pagan to Christian experience among individuals is not an evolutionary, but a transformational process.
God made it clear in the old testament not to follow the new testament.That is why Christians do not like the old testament. The authors of the new testament used bits in pieces of the old testament to sell there story. Remeber jesus is the rock and so was mithra.
This is a good webpage that talks about who he was: The Historical Jesus Christ
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We should leave it at a question mark. Only time will tell the true history of the world. You may be correct on this matter or I may be we will never know 100%. We as a society try to use logic and reasoning when make a decision but sometimes that is not enough to answer all the questions. I guess that is why humans have belief systems.
We should leave it at a question mark. Only time will tell the true history of the world. You may be correct on this matter or I may be we will never know 100%. We as a society try to use logic and reasoning when make a decision but sometimes that is not enough to answer all the questions. I guess that is why humans have belief systems.
fair enough
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