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Old 05-15-2012, 04:31 PM
 
Location: TX
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G-d does not reveal Himself in direct form, because humankind couldn't handle it. The last time He revealed Himself (at Mount Sinai), He did so to the holiest people on the planet, and even they couldn't handle it. We are such a spiritualy depraved people in these times, it could ruin us. So He gives us lots of clues, and makes us do the work to be able to "see" Him.
So the question changes slightly. Why didn't he make us so we could "handle it"? Then he could reveal himself to us, we'd all believe, and he'd have all of his children in heaven with him like anyone who supposedly loves all of their children would want.

Better yet, he could've just skipped this little game and had us all in heaven with him from the beginning. I would never leave my son in another realm for up to 100 years and expect him to just believe I loved him despite my actions. Why? Because I do actually love him. I want him here with me

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I agree in essence with truth_teller. God doesn't hide Himself, we hide from Him. He is pure truth, we are fragmentally falsified. The false is kindling to the fire of pure truth. It's therefore merciful that He doesn't reveal Himself to man any more than He does. Who wants to be friends with a roaring furnace?
Eh? No, I'd argue I'm pretty easy to find to someone who's "all-knowing", and I've never tried to make myself hard to find to an all-knowing being in my life.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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If God cares so much about as believing in him that he will punish people for not believing in him, then why not provide the kind of evidence that will convince the 70% of the world who are non-Christian?
What else can we expect god to do?
He ordered the slaughter of millions of innocent people, created diseases, sat back as evil triumphed, promised everything but delivered nothing, ignored (or even laughed) prayers from desperate people, etc, etc.
Which such a track record, who wouldn't hide?
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:35 PM
 
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Because he's a Cubs fan. Shoot! I'd hide, too, if I was....
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:58 AM
 
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What else can we expect god to do?
He ordered the slaughter of millions of innocent people, created diseases, sat back as evil triumphed, promised everything but delivered nothing, ignored (or even laughed) prayers from desperate people, etc, etc.
Which such a track record, who wouldn't hide?
“Confidence is ignorance. If you're feeling cocky, it's because there's something you don't know.”
Eoin Colfer, Artemis Fowl
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Anytime I embarass myself, I go into hiding for a long, long, long, long time, until the red in my face disappears!

As for God, the redness may never disappear!
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:08 AM
 
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So you believe that someone can be a muslim and a Christian at the same time?

How often would He have to visit a news station?

Could He use a radio station? Satellite radio? Could He use skype? Or maybe tweet?

What is your preference?

Would you believe if He did appear on conservative Fox News but not on the socialist CNN? Or would you believe it more if He appeared on FreeSpeech T.V?

How would you know it is Him since He is spirit and invisible?

Let me know and I'll see what I can do. It's a local call for me.

By the way, Christ is coming back to set up the millennial kingdom on the earth. Maybe you will be alive to see it.

I know, I know, some of you will just say He said He would return 2000 years ago and hasn't done so yet. But He said only the Father really knows when He is to return.

Won't you guys feel silly for dissing God and Christ when He does?
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I really don't care about how God chooses to reveal himself, as long at it is public and easily recordable. I don't see why it is so difficult for God to reveal himself in such a way that a majority of the planet will believe in him.

Politicians, actors, and singers do this on a regular basis. Why is God unable to do this?
He reveals Himself every day to people. He did to me back in 1973. Eventually you'll meet His Son as your judge and Saviour. He actually thinks you are pretty cool.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:28 AM
 
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“Confidence is ignorance. If you're feeling cocky, it's because there's something you don't know.”
Eoin Colfer, Artemis Fowl
So you're telling us you're not confident that God is real and Muhammad is his prophet?
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:37 AM
 
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So you're telling us you're not confident that God is real and Muhammad is his prophet?
I am sure that you are smart enough to recognize that I was not talking to myself
"Half of being smart is knowing what you are dumb about"
Again ...
I am sure that you are smart enough to recognize that I am not talking to myself here eather...

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Old 05-16-2012, 09:22 AM
 
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He reveals Himself every day to people. He did to me back in 1973. Eventually you'll meet His Son as your judge and Saviour. He actually thinks you are pretty cool.
I already know that he is claimed to visit a few individuals. But why doesn't he visit the rest of us in a way that will actually convince us?
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Old 05-16-2012, 09:30 AM
 
Location: TX
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I already know that he is claimed to visit a few individuals. But why doesn't he visit the rest of us in a way that will actually convince us?
Because that might be something a father who loves his children and actually wants them in heaven with him would do?
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