Provide Proof God Does Not Exist & Proof of Evolution Theory (agnostic, paranormal)
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I guess we grew up in different cultures. I was never around anyone who disparaged the learning of biology and anthropology. Certainly the charge of either being sinful has never crossed my mind, nor have they ever been positioned as such in my world. Just about Everyone I knew attended church, but there was never demonization of these or similar subjects. Most of the families I grew up with were well off, lawyers doctors, executives, etc, so maybe that explains some of the difference. I also knew plenty of professors in college and graduate school who were theists, but by no means believers in the literal bible. You must have indeed grown up in a backward world.
Nothing, not diet, exercise, self examination, will benefit a person not properlyexecuted. Sounds as if you have not been around a proper church with modern thinking and deeper analysis of the bible beyond a literalinterpretatio. Before you go including all of Christianity in the narrow sliver of your experience, I would suggest broadening your scope of knowledge and seeking out ahigher quality of intellect. You may find it not so easy to dismiss when presented more thoughtfully.
We all have different experiences of Christians. Kingkat's experience may not be typical (though others have reported similar) and in fact the christian society in which I grew up has all kinds, though, by and large, the authority figures in religion instruction in school and in church failed to impress.
As to a higher quality of intellect, we goddless bastards have had the very best that theist apologetics can throw at us. The end result often turns out to be surprisingly poor, both in evidence and reasoning. Generally, the more we look into Theist claims, the more they tend to collapse. I might mention the threads on Exodus, the Fatima miracle and the nativity.
If you have some better case to make, we welcome it.
This is about history and not predictions. Ancestry.
I have no idea what you're talking about, nor how it relates to the post you responded to. Perhaps using more than a single sentence would allow you to explain yourself a bit more clearly.
If you can't prove God exists, can you prove He doesn't exist?
Of course not, because God is a SPIRITUAL presence and not a material presence in our lives. Furthermore, in answer to your subject line: the fact that we continue to evolve, as do all living beings, is pretty sound evidence that God exists.
We all have different experiences of Christians. Kingkat's experience may not be typical (though others have reported similar) and in fact the christian society in which I grew up has all kinds, though, by and large, the authority figures in religion instruction in school and in church failed to impress.
As to a higher quality of intellect, we goddless bastards have had the very best that theist apologetics can throw at us. The end result often turns out to be surprisingly poor, both in evidence and reasoning. Generally, the more we look into Theist claims, the more they tend to collapse. I might mention the threads on Exodus, the Fatima miracle and the nativity.
If you have some better case to make, we welcome it.
I was referring to a higher intellect relative to other Christians KC may have experienced, not relative to atheists. Lord knows I wouldn't want to stir up such a hornets nest. We all know atheists believe they are vastly superior in that capacity, and I really could care less about it.
Of course not, because God is a SPIRITUAL presence and not a material presence in our lives. Furthermore, in answer to your subject line: the fact that we continue to evolve, as do all living beings, is pretty sound evidence that God exists.
How does evolution provide evidence of the existence of God?
I was referring to a higher intellect relative to other Christians KC may have experienced, not relative to atheists. Lord knows I wouldn't want to stir up such a hornets nest. We all know atheists believe they are vastly superior in that capacity, and I really could care less about it.
Well, that's what I was talking about, too. In fact I can tell you from personal experience that atheists are not necessarily more intelligent that Christians. After all some of our finest atheist minds were formerly Christians themselves. I am of pretty mediocre intellect myself, but I am aided by being able to use logic and sound evidence, whereas Christians have to work extra hard at devising ways to make bosh sound convincing.
You might find it very liberating to approach the subject "without an axe in your hand" (Pratchett) instead lobbing verbal grenades ahead of you to keep logic and reason at bay.
Yes I understand alright. The use of empty phrases like "spiritual" gets you out of substantiating your claims in any way. Words like that do little more than define ones own nonsense to be outside the realm of substantiation, and the speaker then acts like we should accept the nonsense anyway.
Yes I understand alright. The use of empty phrases like "spiritual" gets you out of substantiating your claims in any way. Words like that do little more than define ones own nonsense to be outside the realm of substantiation, and the speaker then acts like we should accept the nonsense anyway.
Some people see the world in black & white only. Others see all the shades of grey.
Some people see the world in black & white only. Others see all the shades of grey.
We are aware of all the shades of grey. We simply do not insist that one believe or not that grey is either type of black or a type of white.
By using the vague term 'spiritual' you are taking all the grey stuff and insisting that it is the 'religious hue'.
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