Is the Unification Church (Moonies) Christian? (gospels, worship, Jewish, Christianity)
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Of course, but the point is not about salvation (how quickly you religious bods lode the track of an argument), but about the actions (or works) of people - Christian, Jewish or not -as aspects of God's unfolding plan. Which you denied on the grounds of Faith not works,to which I responded by showing that works are involved too, so human actions as requirements in the supposed plan of God cannot be denied as you did.
The point of the argument is that your grounds for denying the Unification Church status as Christian is on the basis of their claim that "mankind must fulfill certain conditions" because you posted "salvation based on who Jesus was/is, not our goodness."
Works also have a part to play as per James' letter, so human actions as part of Gods plan cannot be doctrinally made a reason to deny the Unification Church Christianity status.
If you think sending members out to sell flowers on street corners 16 hours or so a day is faith through works hmm!!!!!! I ask,who are they putting their faith in ?
Whatever. I made my point. I shouldn't expect a non-Christian to understand.
I showed yourpoint (re. why the Unification Church cannot be considered Christian - and I have no great liking for them, btw) to be irrelevant, unsound and no point at all, and you simply said it again. I'm sure everyone who is able to read and reason will draw their own conclusions.
Nah. It has some major differences in theology with what Christianity has taught the past 2000 years.
Ok. That's a fair argument. I'm supposing that the real point is the one made about the Mormons and indeed many of the other branches of religions that teach and believe that Jesus was the son of God and rose from the dead - which is all that I need to class someone as christian.
If the Moonies ..bugger... Unification Church ..teach and believe that, do the doctrinal differences count?
I showed yourpoint (re. why the Unification Church cannot be considered Christian - and I have no great liking for them, btw) to be irrelevant, unsound and no point at all, and you simply said it again. I'm sure everyone who is able to read and reason will draw their own conclusions.
Yes, and I would encourage them to read post #9 where I quoted pertinent Scripture that explains faith and works, in regard to salvation.
Ok. That's a fair argument. I'm supposing that the real point is the one made about the Mormons and indeed many of the other branches of religions that teach and believe that Jesus was the son of God and rose from the dead - which is all that I need to class someone as christian.
If the Moonies ..bugger... Unification Church ..teach and believe that, do the doctrinal differences count?
Ok. That's a fair argument. I'm supposing that the real point is the one made about the Mormons and indeed many of the other branches of religions that teach and believe that Jesus was the son of God and rose from the dead - which is all that I need to class someone as christian.
If the Moonies ..bugger... Unification Church ..teach and believe that, do the doctrinal differences count?
I guess it depends on who Jesus is? If I call him God, and you call him the Mexican gardener, are we both Christians?
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), but about the actions (or works) of people - Christian, Jewish or not -as aspects of God's unfolding plan. Which you denied on the grounds of Faith not works,to which I responded by showing that works are involved too, so human actions as requirements in the supposed plan of God cannot be denied as you did.
Unification Church ..teach and believe that, do the doctrinal differences count?
