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Old 12-16-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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The Bible, especially Revelation has a number of prophecies relating to the fate of the Devil, his battle in heaven, fall to the earth and his uncontrollable anger knowing he has only a short time left.

Now the Devil is supposed to be the arch deceiver, cunning, tricky, able to change himself into an angel of light to trap the unwary, in other words, one hell of a clever spirit (pun intended). So how come he cant read the prophecies in the Bible and come to the conclusion that if he just alters one aspect of them, say for instance, he does not go around the earth trying to deceive everyone, or at the end of the thousand years when he is released, he just sits there in his chains and refuses to budge? He knows that any such action, would change God's prophecies and make God a liar, thus destroying His credibility with all his creatures, heavenly and earthly. That would give Satan a much better chance of succeeding than just going into a fight he knows for sure he is destined to lose.

Gosh, I may have let the cat out of the bag now....

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Old 12-16-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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The Bible, especially Revelation has a number of prophecies relating to the fate of the Devil, his battle in heaven, fall to the earth and his uncontrollable anger knowing he has only a short time left.

Now the Devil is supposed to be the arch deceiver, cunning, tricky, able to change himself into an angel of light to trap the unwary, in other words, one hell of a clever spirit (pun intended). So how come he cant read the prophecies in the Bible and come to the conclusion that if he just alters one aspect of them, say for instance, he does not go around the earth trying to deceive everyone, or at the end of the thousand years when he is released, he just sits there in his chains and refuses to budge? He knows that any such action, would change God's prophecies and make God a liar, thus destroying His credibility with all his creatures, heavenly and earthly. That would give Satan a much better chance of succeeding than just going into a fight he knows for sure he is destined to lose.

Gosh, I may have let the cat out of the bag now....
Because there will be no place for Satan to hide. Satan wants what God has, he wants to take God's place. The only way for that to happen, is for Satan to do to God what he's done to us. He's trying to get God to sin, or miss the mark. His best chance of trying to do that, is to use us. He will work with that plan to the very end.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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This is one reason why the bible makes no sense no one even a angel or fallen angel would fight against someone when they have already lost. I've heard Christians tell me well Satan wants to take as many people as he can with him. Thats it?? No one fights a war if they don't believe that stand a chance.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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This is one reason why the bible makes no sense no one even a angel or fallen angel would fight against someone when they have already lost. I've heard Christians tell me well Satan wants to take as many people as he can with him. Thats it?? No one fights a war if they don't believe that stand a chance.
Technically there is a chance for Satan to win.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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Technically there is a chance for Satan to win.

According to God & the bible there isn't.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:10 AM
 
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Because there will be no place for Satan to hide. Satan wants what God has, he wants to take God's place. The only way for that to happen, is for Satan to do to God what he's done to us. He's trying to get God to sin, or miss the mark. His best chance of trying to do that, is to use us. He will work with that plan to the very end.
Oh, there are plenty of hiding places, in the minds of millions of gullible and scared human beings. These gullible minds will ignore reality and the absolutely absurdity of the concept of Satan (and god) in order for their minds to mold the story TO MAKE IT WORK.

This self-deception is done out of necessity. No Satan, no danger, no hell, no need for salvation or a savior. It's just a comic book story fantasy for humans.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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According to God & the bible there isn't.
Not true. All it takes is for God to miss His own mark once. The Bible tells us that God will not put His name above His own word, that involves God keeping His word. So all that needs to happen, is God not keeping His word once.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:15 AM
 
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According to God & the bible there isn't [a chance that Satan will win].
Then we don't have to worry about him.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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Technically there is a chance for Satan to win.
Doesn't Satan win in the batter of souls? According the various passages in the bible, many more people will be with Satan in hell than with God in heaven. What is more important than that battle?
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:50 AM
 
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I don't believe in a god or a devil, but by the looks of things in the world, I'd say that evil is winning by a longshot.
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