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Old 06-14-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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Flock? As in sheep? Please help me understand the need to mission. Thank you
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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We gather together to sing the Lords praises......

Thats an old hymn. It describes what the church service is for. First and foremost its to worship God and proclaim the Gospel.
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:01 AM
 
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We gather together to sing the Lords praises......

Thats an old hymn. It describes what the church service is for. First and foremost its to worship God and proclaim the Gospel.
Why?

I know bands hand out fliers to their show because they want to be idols and get rich, they want to be popular all over the world. Is it similar? Do all religions want world wide popularity? Do they want to be the only one?

I just don't understand why religious people go on missions to other countries to try and get people of other faiths to switch to theirs. Usually, the people they mission to already believe in something else.

Is it a duty? For God?
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Old 06-14-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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Jesus commanded his church to go forth and make disciples. As Christians, we believe that Jesus is the only way to get to Heaven. So the most loving thing we can do is to tell people.
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:09 AM
 
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An awful lot of First Nations people who were taken from their homes as children,
robbed of their language and culture and abused by Christian clergy,
are still trying to recover from that brand of "love."
You're not a kiddin....but V is correct it is bec they truly, truly believe
Jesus is the only way to heaven,(?) was it?...Actually the quote is to the Father.

And then Jesus told the disciples present to go tell others.

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Old 06-14-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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You're not a kiddin....but V is correct it is bec they truly, truly believe
Jesus is the only way to heaven,(?) was it?...Actually the quote is to the Father.

And then Jesus told the disciples present to go tell others.

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I see the point, and I've heard it all but I really think there has to be more to it. I'm thinking anyone of a different belief or no belief is seen as a defiant child who needs to be taught right from wrong regardless of physical or mental injury during the process.
Those at the top of these churches are making a pretty penny. And being worshiped like theirs no tomorrow. It's like the greatest scam on earth. IMO, of course. I realize those under the rule seem to think it's a loving thing to do. So, I ask them why, because it seems anything but loving.

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Old 06-14-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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That's sort of my point, after reading what the Catholic spanish did to the Indians here in the name of God, you start to wonder what the "real" reason is. Beating someone in the name of love is hardly convincing me.
I'm certainly not suggesting we beat anyone or force conversion of anyone. I can't force anyone to believe.
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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Jesus certainly never commanded us to abuse anyone. I'm sorry if you feel that Christianity is to blame for any abuses in history.
That's ok, I understand Christianity has come along way, I'm happy about that as most people Christian or not are. Thank you for giving me an honest answer, I'm glad to see you don't think Jesus commanded this. As I've often thought the Christian religion (mainly Catholic) had other motives for missioning. They were sort of governing for a long period and I'm wondering if the history of this is talked about among Christians as a "mistake"
Do most Christians see this as a separate issue from Jesus, a man made mistake of sorts.
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Old 06-15-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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Flock? As in sheep? Please help me understand the need to mission. Thank you
I think it's different for different people and different sects.

But it all comes down to self-interest in the end.
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Old 06-15-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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That's ok, I understand Christianity has come along way, I'm happy about that as most people Christian or not are. Thank you for giving me an honest answer, I'm glad to see you don't think Jesus commanded this. As I've often thought the Christian religion (mainly Catholic) had other motives for missioning. They were sort of governing for a long period and I'm wondering if the history of this is talked about among Christians as a "mistake"
Do most Christians see this as a separate issue from Jesus, a man made mistake of sorts.
I think that's a valid point. I'm a Calvinist--I hold to Reformed Theology. But I think Calvin did some not-so-good things, or allowed some not-so-good things to be done when he was in charge of the church in Geneva. I do not believe the man was 100% correct in all he did--even though I think he articulated the theology attributed to him well.

We need to remember that sometimes people do some pretty crappy things--because humans are sinful beings.
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