If you don't believe in evolution, explain this (hell, myth, worship)
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC
Should I just believe evolution because you or anyone else says so - even though none of you have ever seen it happen?
The fact that I don't believe evolution, is not a matter of science. The fact that you believe it has nothing to do with science. I did no experiments. I assume you did no experiments either.
One doesn't BELIEVE in science, one UNDERSTANDS it.
Sigh.... you really are ignorant (as in not knowing) about science.
Scary.
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Originally Posted by cupper3
One doesn't BELIEVE in science, one UNDERSTANDS it.
Or not in your case.
Question - does Justin Bieber have to understand the science of aerodynamics to know that an airplane can get from point A to point B 1000 miles away in a few hours? OR does he just believe it will happen?
I am going somewhere with this in relation to the topic.
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC
Question - does Justin Bieber have to understand the science of aerodynamics to know that an airplane can get from point A to point B 1000 miles away in a few hours? OR does he just believe it will happen?
I am going somewhere with this in relation to the topic.
Nope, but he needs to know that those who designed that aircraft understand the science that requires it not only to fly, but to deal with the stresses of altitude, speed, navigation, etc. etc.
That plane does not fly on faith, it flies on science.
Should I just believe evolution because you or anyone else says so - even though none of you have ever seen it happen?
The fact that I don't believe evolution, is not a matter of science. The fact that you believe it has nothing to do with science. I did no experiments. I assume you did no experiments either.
I explain it that those cat species are related. We share similarities to an ape but we are not made from an ape. We have similar hand structure to apes.
Nope, but he needs to know that those who designed that aircraft understand the science that requires it not only to fly, but to deal with the stresses of altitude, speed, navigation, etc. etc.
That plane does not fly on faith, it flies on science.
I understand the plane flies on science. But from Bieber's perspective - it's faith. Faith in the science that others performed. Faith in the manufacturers who built the plane. The plane could fail - not based on the science, but on faulty materials. He normally doesn't think about all of that... he just gets on a plane believing that he will get to point B.
There is something else that comes into play - that's the track record of flight today. The success rate is extremely high for a plane to get to its destination without incident. And it's been that way for his whole life. That's what he expects to happen.
Back to evolution... nothing is evolving. Tigers are tigers. Cats are cats. Dogs are dogs. There is nothing in mid-evolution. Nobody on the earth has witnessed anything evolve over a period of time. Unlike the success rate of modern aircraft, the track record for witnessing something evolve is poor.
So now I have to go on the science of others. But for me, there is other input and that's from the Bible. And it states...
Genesis 1:24-25 - Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind"; and it was so. 25 God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good.
Animals were created and reproduced after their kind. Obviously this disagrees with the science of others. So what do I do? Even though I generally tend towards the Bible, it still needs to make sense in reality. And my observation (which is part of the scientific method) tells me nothing is evolving - which tends to support what the Bible says about animals after their own kind. So for me to believe in evolution - I have to override what the Bible says, and I have to override my own observation and believe in the science and testimony of others. I am not willing to do that at this point.
I explain it that those cat species are related. We share similarities to an ape but we are not made from an ape. We have similar hand structure to apes.
I understand the plane flies on science. But from Bieber's perspective - it's faith. Faith in the science that others performed. Faith in the manufacturers who built the plane. The plane could fail - not based on the science, but on faulty materials. He normally doesn't think about all of that... he just gets on a plane believing that he will get to point B.
There is something else that comes into play - that's the track record of flight today. The success rate is extremely high for a plane to get to its destination without incident. And it's been that way for his whole life. That's what he expects to happen.
Back to evolution... nothing is evolving. Tigers are tigers. Cats are cats. Dogs are dogs. There is nothing in mid-evolution. Nobody on the earth has witnessed anything evolve over a period of time. Unlike the success rate of modern aircraft, the track record for witnessing something evolve is poor.
So now I have to go on the science of others. But for me, there is other input and that's from the Bible. And it states...
Genesis 1:24-25 - Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind"; and it was so. 25 God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good.
Animals were created and reproduced after their kind. Obviously this disagrees with the science of others. So what do I do? Even though I generally tend towards the Bible, it still needs to make sense in reality. And my observation (which is part of the scientific method) tells me nothing is evolving - which tends to support what the Bible says about animals after their own kind. So for me to believe in evolution - I have to override what the Bible says, and I have to override my own observation and believe in the science and testimony of others. I am not willing to do that at this point.
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