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Old 10-14-2014, 06:25 AM
 
Location: cote d'ivoire
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jesus was just laid to the house of the highpriest. to the question, is jesus the christ? he said, yes, iam. later he was handed over to pilate
when he rose from death, jesus showed himself first to mary magdalene. bewildered she said that she has been with him but the disciples did not believe it. would you?

 
Old 10-15-2014, 07:28 AM
 
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I had never really thought of the multiple Jesus's before. Interesting.

I heard this on the POC forum though, and it was really interesting. The poster said that what made Jesus radical was his preaching of guilt in a shame based society. He essentially discredits alot of the pressures of shame as a enforcer of punishment and states that guilt is a much better alternative.


Oh, and I think he was a communist (this isn't the POC section though). Jesus talked more about money and obscene profits than he did about any other subject.

As with all of his sayings, their interesting, but to be taken with a grain of salt. If someone asks for your coat, the answer is not always to give them your coat and your gloves. People respond to incentives.

He was idealistic to the max though.
do you know that he lord god has given the kingship of israel to king david and his sons forever ?
 
Old 10-15-2014, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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do you know that he lord god has given the kingship of israel to king david and his sons forever ?
Said Davids scribes. I think a lot of religions have a promised land in them.
 
Old 10-18-2014, 09:48 AM
 
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Said Davids scribes. I think a lot of religions have a promised land in them.
israel is the promised land. the land of canaan beyond the jordan. jerusalem, the city of the great. the temple of solomon on mount moriah, the ark that is the footstool of god.
 
Old 10-31-2014, 05:47 AM
 
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Said Davids scribes. I think a lot of religions have a promised land in them.
they spoke of the god of israel like those handmade gods
 
Old 10-31-2014, 05:38 PM
 
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who do you think is jesus? have you gained anything valuable without him?
My gardener. Maria's kid. Great carpenter too.
In all seriousness, a great teacher. Had a perfect way to explain life, direct to your heart, no BS.
 
Old 10-31-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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no one has the right to say about something it is a sin when the god did not refer to it as a sin
similarly no one has the right to say about something is not a sin when the god refer to it as sin .
and we only can know that from his book that is giving to his messenger .
if we do not refer to the holy book for judging things then any one can use his own words to say this sin and this is not a sin and only naïve would accept that.

when the god tell us not do something then we should compliance and we do not need to know the reason or argue about it.

and here is another verse from the final Holy Book
They ask you about intoxicants and games of chance.
Say: In both of them there is a great sin and means of profit for men,
and their sin is greater than their profit.
And they ask you as to what they should spend.
Say: What you can spare.
Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications, that you may ponder . The Holy Quran. 2:219
I suspect that statutory rape is not a sin since Muhammad (IHE) participated in it and promoted it.

My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me.” Tabari IX:131
 
Old 10-31-2014, 06:41 PM
 
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who do you think is jesus? have you gained anything valuable without him?
If you're speaking of the Bible character Jesus, he cannot be addressed in the present tense "is", so I believe he was a pawn used by John the Baptist to help promote unrest against the Romans.

I've gained good seats at restaurants late Sunday mornings, and being able to watch football in my p.j.'s.
 
Old 10-31-2014, 06:42 PM
 
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when he rose from death, jesus showed himself first to mary magdalene. bewildered she said that she has been with him but the disciples did not believe it. would you?
Depends upon which version of the story you believe.
 
Old 11-05-2014, 05:14 AM
 
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I suspect that statutory rape is not a sin since Muhammad (IHE) participated in it and promoted it.

My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me.” Tabari IX:131
will jerusalem be ritally clean up again? then king josiah of judah destroyed all the pagan worship places, broke down the altars of baal and burnt their bones on the altars of their sacrifices. ground to dust their idols and scattered over the graves of those heathen.
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