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Old 11-01-2014, 12:57 AM
 
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Belief in Angry God Associated with Poor Mental Health | RealClearScience

Religion & Mental Health: New Study Links Belief In 'Punitive God' To Emotional Problems
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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No surprise there, but the chicken or egg thing comes to mind. Still, it is an indicator worth thinking about.
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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Considering that secular psychologists don't consider it a mental illness for a man to think he's a woman or to want to be sexually involved with a man....I'm not sure I really am bothered by the idea that they consider my religious beliefs to be an issue.
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Considering that secular psychologists don't consider it a mental illness for a man to think he's a woman or to want to be sexually involved with a man....I'm not sure I really am bothered by the idea that they consider my religious beliefs to be an issue.
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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Considering that secular psychologists don't consider it a mental illness for a man to think he's a woman or to want to be sexually involved with a man....I'm not sure I really am bothered by the idea that they consider my religious beliefs to be an issue.

Does that mean believing in an angry god can make you crazy?

Not necessarily. The study looked only at the correlation between beliefs and mental health and not at causality, so the study's take-away message is subject to interpretation.

I did find it interesting though, and it is something to think about, in my opinion.
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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My guess is that a child raised in an environment where "Angry God" is taught is going to have ythat much more pressure, but again, pressure because of the religious doctrine or because of the social issues of the parents who have adopted that perception?
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:52 PM
 
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Sounds like 'Angry God' is a projection of an underlying angry self.
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Old 11-01-2014, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Sounds like 'Angry God' is a projection of an underlying angry self.
Yep.
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Old 11-01-2014, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Considering that secular psychologists don't consider it a mental illness for a man to think he's a woman or to want to be sexually involved with a man....I'm not sure I really am bothered by the idea that they consider my religious beliefs to be an issue.
Believing psychologists don't either, not openly, or they would not be adhering to standards of care and would have their licenses pulled or be subject to malpractice claims.

Our own Mr. Prince is a retired mental health professional and despite his strong religious beliefs he practiced CBT and all the other normal therapies. Or so he told me recently.

In any case this is a false equivalence fallacy. One can objectively note that many psychoses, personality disorders, and neuroses present with religious ideation, without concluding necessarily that religious ideation is inherently bad. One could rationalize it as distorted or exaggerated or untempered religious ideation. One could point out that most of the time when religious ideation is a major feature of someone's mental illness that their particular notions would not be considered correct or doctrinally sound by their own church, and may have, e.g., megalomaniacal features. Whatever conclusion you come to about the relationship between religious ideation and mental illness, in any case, has nothing inherently to do with gender dysmorphia or sexual orientation. The most you can say is that one can influence the other.

As a minister, you have influence with people out of proportion to other folks, so I wish that you would be careful about painting the mental health system with such a broad brush of suspicion. You may unwittingly prevent people in your flock from getting help that they need. The misguided notion that every personal problem requires a Biblical prescription in preference to mental health standards of care, greatly impaired my own judgment as my first wife's substantial mental health issues progressed and deteriorated. Her issues were bad enough that it probably wouldn't have mattered, but the "care" she got from Christian counseling and therapy did her no favors, either. To this day she rots somewhere in the county mental health system, and has cut herself off from her own children. And to get her even that level of care against her will, I had to let her deteriorate to the point that she was a danger to herself and others. Things might have gone differently if my church had, from the start, counseled me to insist that she submit to proper mental health care and medication, and perhaps advised me against getting her with child, etc. But it was considered shameful to even discuss these issues, and by and large, my spiritual mentors were totally in over their heads on such topics.
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Old 11-01-2014, 02:32 PM
 
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Sounds like 'Angry God' is a projection of an underlying angry self.
Oh, so it's all about yourself.. once again, Freudian projectionist psychology rears its ugly head.
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