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Originally Posted by old_cold
Before this gets to be 90 pages long with misinformation.. I believe it wasn't a baby needing any kind of treatment, it was a new patient well-baby check.
The doctor said she didn't feel she could relate well to the parents or establish a good doctor/patient (parent substitute, in this case) relationship.
She was wrong to have taken them first and then changed her mind. She brought attention t herself for having done so.
Personally, I think she's totally unprofessional and just this side of being an idiot but I guess they can be found everywhere.
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by bUU
You don't reward children for being egoistic, so you don't reward adults for being egoistic.
I don't know. I distinctly remember high school being a place of egotistical folk. And some were rewarded if they were good at sport or something like that. Also in terms of adults. Look at wall street before 2008. Plenty of egotism and plenty of reward.
Would you really want a doctor that you fundamentally disagree with on the topic of sexuality to treat your kid?
This goes deeper than the doc thinking the parents are "icky". She decided she was not able to develop the parent-doctor relationship. I respect her for telling them from the start. It's not as if she happened along a car accident and found 2 lesbians with a baby and said "Well...I'm not going to treat THEM....". This is a non-emergency, and there are plenty of other doctors to go to.
Not once have I asked my children's pediatrician their views on sexuality. I did not have an interest in asking.
Why would that happen? It makes the visit about the DR not the child.
It is no more important than what political party they affiliate with.
Viz do you quiz your Doctors about their sexual preferences? Honestly in the two or three times a year you may go to the Dr how important is it?
Last edited by RonkonkomaNative; 02-22-2015 at 09:18 AM..
Reason: spelling
What phrase in which version of the oath did she violate specifically?
This is the original version of the Hippocratic Oath:
I swear by Apollo the physician, and Aesculapius the surgeon, likewise Hygeia and Panacea, and call all the gods and goddesses to witness, that I will observe and keep this underwritten oath, to the utmost of my power and judgment.
I will reverence my master who taught me the art. Equally with my parents, will I allow him things necessary for his support, and will consider his sons as brothers. I will teach them my art without reward or agreement; and I will impart all my acquirement, instructions, and whatever I know, to my master's children, as to my own; and likewise to all my pupils, who shall bind and tie themselves by a professional oath, but to none else.
With regard to healing the sick, I will devise and order for them the best diet, according to my judgment and means; and I will take care that they suffer no hurt or damage.
Nor shall any man's entreaty prevail upon me to administer poison to anyone; neither will I counsel any man to do so. Moreover, I will give no sort of medicine to any pregnant woman, with a view to destroy the child.
Further, I will comport myself and use my knowledge in a godly manner.
I will not cut for the stone, but will commit that affair entirely to the surgeons. Whatsoever house I may enter, my visit shall be for the convenience and advantage of the patient; and I will willingly refrain from doing any injury or wrong from falsehood, and (in an especial manner) from acts of an amorous nature, whatever may be the rank of those who it may be my duty to cure, whether mistress or servant, bond or free. Whatever, in the course of my practice, I may see or hear (even when not invited), whatever I may happen to obtain knowledge of, if it be not proper to repeat it, I will keep sacred and secret within my own breast.
If I faithfully observe this oath, may I thrive and prosper in my fortune and profession, and live in the estimation of posterity; or on breach thereof, may the reverse be my fate![4]
Declaration of Geneva
At the time of being admitted as a member of the medical profession: I solemnly pledge to consecrate my life to the service of humanity;
I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude that is their due;
I will practice my profession with conscience and dignity; The health of my patient will be my first consideration;
I will respect the secrets that are confided in me, even after the patient has died;
I will maintain by all the means in my power, the honour and the noble traditions of the medical profession;
My colleagues will be my sisters and brothers; I will not permit considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient; I will maintain the utmost respect for human life;
I will not use my medical knowledge to violate human rights and civil liberties, even under threat;
I make these promises solemnly, freely and upon my honour.
Well even if Dr. Roi might be right within the confines of the law doesn't necessarily make it right with the Lord as the pediatrician will be judged by God, only God knows the true heart of an individual.
This is the original version of the Hippocratic Oath:
I swear by Apollo the physician, and Aesculapius the surgeon, likewise Hygeia and Panacea, and call all the gods and goddesses to witness, that I will observe and keep this underwritten oath, to the utmost of my power and judgment.
I will reverence my master who taught me the art. Equally with my parents, will I allow him things necessary for his support, and will consider his sons as brothers. I will teach them my art without reward or agreement; and I will impart all my acquirement, instructions, and whatever I know, to my master's children, as to my own; and likewise to all my pupils, who shall bind and tie themselves by a professional oath, but to none else.
With regard to healing the sick, I will devise and order for them the best diet, according to my judgment and means; and I will take care that they suffer no hurt or damage.
Nor shall any man's entreaty prevail upon me to administer poison to anyone; neither will I counsel any man to do so. Moreover, I will give no sort of medicine to any pregnant woman, with a view to destroy the child.
Further, I will comport myself and use my knowledge in a godly manner.
I will not cut for the stone, but will commit that affair entirely to the surgeons. Whatsoever house I may enter, my visit shall be for the convenience and advantage of the patient; and I will willingly refrain from doing any injury or wrong from falsehood, and (in an especial manner) from acts of an amorous nature, whatever may be the rank of those who it may be my duty to cure, whether mistress or servant, bond or free. Whatever, in the course of my practice, I may see or hear (even when not invited), whatever I may happen to obtain knowledge of, if it be not proper to repeat it, I will keep sacred and secret within my own breast.
If I faithfully observe this oath, may I thrive and prosper in my fortune and profession, and live in the estimation of posterity; or on breach thereof, may the reverse be my fate![4]
Declaration of Geneva
At the time of being admitted as a member of the medical profession: I solemnly pledge to consecrate my life to the service of humanity;
I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude that is their due;
I will practice my profession with conscience and dignity; The health of my patient will be my first consideration;
I will respect the secrets that are confided in me, even after the patient has died;
I will maintain by all the means in my power, the honour and the noble traditions of the medical profession;
My colleagues will be my sisters and brothers; I will not permit considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient; I will maintain the utmost respect for human life;
I will not use my medical knowledge to violate human rights and civil liberties, even under threat;
I make these promises solemnly, freely and upon my honour.
The red is the only one that really applies in this situation.
The rest are fairly reaching.
Do we know which oath she took?
Only 98% of med students in this country take any oath and they differ from place to place, country to country, and if they have an M.D. or a D.O.
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