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Old 04-17-2010, 03:31 PM
 
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I cringe every time I hear someone say Jesus is risen. Isn't this grammatically incorrect? Risen is a present perfect form of the verb meaning an action has been completed. This would require the use of the word "has." Otherwise you would say He is RISING. I wouldn't tell my friend that her baby "is risen" from his nap. Likewise, you wouldn't say He IS sung, instead of He has sung, or He is singing.

I mean, who goes around in this day and age, using archaic language such as "wilt thou attend church with me?" It makes the speaker sound disingenuous, like they are not trying to get over the real meaning of what they are trying to say, but are rather just trying to parrot some kind of catch-phrase (which sounds horrible, btw). The message gets lost in the translation........
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Old 04-17-2010, 07:34 PM
 
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get over it.
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Old 04-17-2010, 08:10 PM
 
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The message gets lost in the translation...
Interesting that you used the word translation. Because if all the original writings had been translated correctly, there wouldn't have been quite so many misconceptions handed down to us through the years.
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Old 04-17-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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Interesting that you used the word translation. Because if all the original writings had been translated correctly, there wouldn't have been quite so many misconceptions handed down to us through the years.

lolololol you got that right and Moses would not have had horns...... Or so they thought but we know it was a brightness that eminated from his face, not horns....
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Old 04-18-2010, 02:39 AM
 
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Grammatical errors is the least of the problems that I have with religious claims.
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:01 AM
 
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Jesus is risen...Jesus has risen. If it has to be a debate and bad grammar is involved, let's make a compromise. Jesus done rose. There ya go!
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:48 AM
 
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Jesus is risen...Jesus has risen. If it has to be a debate and bad grammar is involved, let's make a compromise. Jesus done rose. There ya go!
To funny and am from the south so I get to laugh! LOL
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:12 PM
 
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Jesus is risen...Jesus has risen. If it has to be a debate and bad grammar is involved, let's make a compromise. Jesus done rose. There ya go!
That would have been absolutely correct at my great aunt's church.

Can I get a Amen!

Havmercy!
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:18 PM
 
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I know that Bible texts translate till now. I always read "have risen" " is risen "
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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I cringe every time I hear someone say Jesus is risen. Isn't this grammatically incorrect? Risen is a present perfect form of the verb meaning an action has been completed. This would require the use of the word "has." Otherwise you would say He is RISING. I wouldn't tell my friend that her baby "is risen" from his nap. Likewise, you wouldn't say He IS sung, instead of He has sung, or He is singing.

I mean, who goes around in this day and age, using archaic language such as "wilt thou attend church with me?" It makes the speaker sound disingenuous, like they are not trying to get over the real meaning of what they are trying to say, but are rather just trying to parrot some kind of catch-phrase (which sounds horrible, btw). The message gets lost in the translation........
Hmm...."Religion is silly supersition" or Religion has silly superstition?"
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