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Old 05-22-2015, 11:16 AM
 
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I'll bet dad was involved in some way.
How do you know that?
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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Using this incident for ANYthing other than to help the victims and, since this is a family voluntarily in the public eye, allow them to be part of educating society about the problem if they so desire, is beyond crass and insensitive. As it is, the amount of judgment and hostility being heaped on the family as a whole can do nothing to help those girls. STOP using their pain to promote an agenda. You who do so re-victimize those you say you care about.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I wouldn't be surprised if the family starts getting death threats.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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No one said it was harmless. I said it was ubiquitous. It happens between siblings often.

You said it was about curiosity and experimentation. That makes it SOUND harmless. It isn't. And that's not what it is about when one of the people involved is unwilling.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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How do you know that?
Did I say I Know that? I said I'll bet.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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News Flash-----no one is putting the Duggars in a special class because they are "Christians," they are being exposed for the difference between their talk and their walk. Josh isn't the only thing they keep in the closet. Michelle isn't much into talking about her lesbian sister (nothing wrong about having a lesbian sister except if your preaching hell fire toward homosexuals). Michelle to be the best fundamentalist should take every opportunity on their show to tell her sister she is going to hell (but that might not be good for ratings).

What's wrong is failing to point out hypocrisy posing as "godly." Sweeping it away with, "ah, shucks, them Duggars are human like the rest of us," smacks of some of the worst coverups that go on constantly in our society." Think police covering for their own or Catholic hierarchy willing to come to grips with their pedophile priest problems until media attention forced them to do so.
I guess forgiveness doesn't exist in your brand of Christianity. We happen to believe the a repented sinner can be RENEWED through faith in Jesus Christ. They are only hypocrites if Josh is actually engaging in this activity. He's not. This happened 14 years ago.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Incest is ubiquitous in families. Children become curious and experiment.
Well, duh! If it wasn't taking place within a family, it wouldn't be incest.
Children do experiment.(Ignoring the fact that in this case,most of the 'experimenters' weren't old enough to be curious)
Once those experiments become known to the parents, they shouldn't be allowed to continue.....for years.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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You said it was about curiosity and experimentation. That makes it SOUND harmless. It isn't. And that's not what it is about when one of the people involved is unwilling.
No. Many things we do out of curiosity are not harmless. I am simply saying it happens often.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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When a middle-aged man molests a young teenage or pre-teen boy, often the boy feels as if there is no escape. He is completely vulnerable with that priest.


What book would have thrown at the 14 year old boy? He was the oldest child of young parents. Did they handle it the way we all think might have been best? No. But by all accounts, all parties turned out ok.
You're getting this information from where?
The little girls that kept on smiling? The ones that smiled for the camera all through the abuse and since, but were obviously either ignored or told not to complain?
You think those girls weren't vulnerable and helpless when , even after the parents knew, they didn't stop it?
Un-freakin-believable!

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Old 05-22-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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No. Many things we do out of curiosity are not harmless. I am simply saying it happens often.

You seem to want to downplay MOLESTATION by a sibling as simply curiosity. Really?
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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Well, duh! If it wasn't taking place within a family, it wouldn't be incest.
Children do experiment.(Ignoring the fact that in this case,most of the 'experimenters' weren't old enough to be curious)
Once those experiments become known to the parents, they shouldn't be allowed to continue.....for years.
Sexual exploration begins very early. I do think the parents should have intervened once it was discovered. But as often is the case religious families like to sweep things under the rug. Hide the shame. So this is what comes of this.
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