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-Characteristics of the spirit of Satan found in mankind and where the seat of Satan is found:
“Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: there is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, that is what defiles him…For from within, out of the heart of men proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lascivious, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within and defile a man. ” Mark 7:14–16 & 21-23
I’m convinced, this concept has legs, and why shouldn’t I be?
It is indeed within each of us and it has a scientific name . . . the reptilian brain (Serpent) and looks very much like a Serpent.
Is it possible that the absence of God causes evil in humans? All creatures in paradise where in the presence of God. When paradise fell, which was when Satan turned God's creatures against him, creatures turned to their own devises for survival. Thus, we have "laws of nature" serving the needs of God's creatures.
Here is another thought about evil. God created the universe to imprison Satan after he became a rebellious angel. After the fall of paradise, the world became one of many places in the universe for Satan to possess, plant seeds of destruction, and, otherwise, cause havoc.
It's a model. An "explanation" for whatever we don't understand. To be more specific:
If something good happens, it's God.
If something bad happens, it's either God punishing us or the Devil at work.
Now let's not leave out "the flesh" here. "The flesh" is there so that if the Devil is too busy tempting somebody else and can't get to you...............God still gets to punish you.
OP, I actually read through the entire memorandum. Not sure why you had to alienate yourself in the first lines, but that is your choice. Rightfully so, it was noticed that you deny any interest in discussion yet, in the last sentence apparently ask for it.
I am also trying to fathom the concept of your question. Are you stating that "evil" aka "Satan" is in humans only?
As if this were the case, I do wholeheartedly agree with you. Indeed, a human made itself imperfect. As such, it fell out of perfect realm. As such, it was introduced to the physical and passing and death. As such, "evil" thinking produced by humanity created a "satan" as an egregor that combines those particular thoughts. As such, that egregor is influencing humanity back.
Is it possible that the absence of God causes evil in humans? All creatures in paradise where in the presence of God. When paradise fell, which was when Satan turned God's creatures against him, creatures turned to their own devises for survival. Thus, we have "laws of nature" serving the needs of God's creatures.
Here is another thought about evil. God created the universe to imprison Satan after he became a rebellious angel. After the fall of paradise, the world became one of many places in the universe for Satan to possess, plant seeds of destruction, and, otherwise, cause havoc.
Is it possible that the absence of God causes evil in humans?
Anything is possible, but it's far more likely that harmful behavior in humans is caused by ignorance, unawareness of one's feelings and inability to manage them, various kinds of immaturity, fear, tribal thought patterns, and the like. The human race is clawing its way out of a very deep hole of superstition and fear and ignorance, and some are rising above all that better than others.
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Originally Posted by earl012
All creatures in paradise where in the presence of God. When paradise fell, which was when Satan turned God's creatures against him, creatures turned to their own devises [sic] for survival. Thus, we have "laws of nature" serving the needs of God's creatures.
This is a view (unwarranted and unsubstantiated in my view) that righteousness and evil are things-in-themselves rather than emergent behavioral patterns, and that they emanate from certain beings (god, Satan) and somehow influence the mood and decisions of other beings. I see no basis to think this to be so. You are welcome to present evidence to substantiate the notion, but I don't now where it would come from.
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Originally Posted by earl012
Here is another thought about evil. God created the universe to imprison Satan after he became a rebellious angel. After the fall of paradise, the world became one of many places in the universe for Satan to possess, plant seeds of destruction, and, otherwise, cause havoc.
You are simply quoting theistic legends here, mixed with your own speculations. Besides, it's illogical on its face. If god created the universe to imprison and punish Satan then why would he have the prison walls encompass Earth so we're locked in with him? When you imprison someone you place meaningful restrictions and sanctions on them, you don't give them an entire universe that also happens to be the place where a bunch of sentient beings and their families and loved ones are trying to eke out an existence, and then give him carte blanche such that in the end you have to "save" the human race you put in harm's way in the first place and end up having to destroy the heavens and earth and remake them anyway. That would be nuts.
Witnessing is like history, it's up to you to believe it or not even in the case that it's a truth.
Jude 1:9 (NIV)
But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!"
Isaiah 14:15-17 (NIV)
But you are brought down to the realm of the dead, to the depths of the pit.
Those who see you stare at you, they ponder your fate: “Is this the man who shook the earth and made kingdoms tremble,
the man who made the world a wilderness, who overthrew its cities and would not let his captives go home?”
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