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Jesus directly instructed the disciples NOT to take titles, father, master, or teacher, but Jesus words have been ignored by the church .
It is wrong to elevate people with titles, among believers.
The disciples were called to make other disciple to Jesus, not to them selves.
But suppose if Jesus lordship means little to you, none of what He said matters. make up your own rules.
Just keep in mind God does not have to honor them. Matthew 7;21,22,23,
I get being disappointed at learning that a "hero," so to speak, had negative points (or points that a lot of people would consider negative) swept under the rug.And I honest to goodness do understand that it's important to tell a whole story, a real story, not just the good parts.
But I think ALL heroes have these negative points. Even the most amazing person out there. We all do what we can do, or what we feel comfortable doing. And this woman did a heck of a lot and obviously NOT just what was comfortable. For her or for anybody. And as compared to what even the most altruistic people throughout history, this woman gave literally her life/lifestyle and lived in squalor, for decades. That is so much more than anyone I have ever known would really be able to do.
Dirty needles, etc...that's what she had. She was working with what she had. Plus her ultra-Christian (no surprise there, she was a nun) views. She did what she could even during a few crises of faith so significant that apparently at points she doubted even the existence of God. Yet she kept going. That really is huge. Faults or not, IMO that's what makes a hero. Or to put it less dramatically/catch-phrase-y, a person who really is working from the heart and really wants to make a difference.
To me knowing MT was imperfect is actually heartening. When you hear a story like hers you feel so far removed from it. "Well, I could never be like her, I never will be, period...so I may as well not try." To me, stories of heroes who had their very negative points, or who screwed up, or whatever the case may be, gives me hope because those mean one doesn't have to be perfect in order to make a difference...so why not try.
You show great wisdom here JerZ. I always knew you were wise..even from back years ago when we would joke back and forth by DM...but this is special. You "get it".
I don't know a whole lot about Mother Teresa, but I do remember a story about someone who remembers seeing her sitting by a dying woman picking maggots out of the woman's wounds. Doesn't sound evil to me. I'mean sure she wasn't perfect.
You are a Wiccan or other Pagan, then. That's not the same thing. "Witch" is a derogatory term meaning someone who has misused the magic. Or a term from someone who doesn't know better who really means *****.
No, actually, it's not. Wiccans are witches (though not all witches are Wiccan). I do not misuse magic (doing so would violate the Rede and earn a pretty nasty karmic smack-down).
But -- that's not the topic of the thread; send me a message if you want to continue the discussion in a more appropriate setting.
No, actually, it's not. Wiccans are witches (though not all witches are Wiccan). I do not misuse magic (doing so would violate the Rede and earn a pretty nasty karmic smack-down).
But -- that's not the topic of the thread; send me a message if you want to continue the discussion in a more appropriate setting.
The Wiccan Rede /ˈriːd/ is a statement that provides the key moral system in the Neopagan religion of Wicca and certain other related Witchcraft-based faiths. A common form of the Rede is An it harm none, do what ye will. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiccan_Rede
That's what it says in the Satanic Verses/Bible....
I get being disappointed at learning that a "hero," so to speak, had negative points (or points that a lot of people would consider negative) swept under the rug.And I honest to goodness do understand that it's important to tell a whole story, a real story, not just the good parts.
But I think ALL heroes have these negative points. Even the most amazing person out there. We all do what we can do, or what we feel comfortable doing. And this woman did a heck of a lot and obviously NOT just what was comfortable. For her or for anybody. And as compared to what even the most altruistic people throughout history, this woman gave literally her life/lifestyle and lived in squalor, for decades. That is so much more than anyone I have ever known would really be able to do.
Dirty needles, etc...that's what she had. She was working with what she had. Plus her ultra-Christian (no surprise there, she was a nun) views. She did what she could even during a few crises of faith so significant that apparently at points she doubted even the existence of God. Yet she kept going. That really is huge. Faults or not, IMO that's what makes a hero. Or to put it less dramatically/catch-phrase-y, a person who really is working from the heart and really wants to make a difference.
To me knowing MT was imperfect is actually heartening. When you hear a story like hers you feel so far removed from it. "Well, I could never be like her, I never will be, period...so I may as well not try." To me, stories of heroes who had their very negative points, or who screwed up, or whatever the case may be, gives me hope because those mean one doesn't have to be perfect in order to make a difference...so why not try.
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Originally Posted by GldnRule
You show great wisdom here JerZ. I always knew you were wise..even from back years ago when we would joke back and forth by DM...but this is special. You "get it".
There ya go.
Anybody that needs proper, insightful, and wise perspective on this issue...needs nothing but to read Post #36 by JerZ.
But it went beyond that. It spoke to a greater understanding....that no matter how good anyone is, they are still human, and no one is flawless. But we can be inspired by this, not put off, discouraged, or dejected.
It is certainly one of the top offerings to this board I've ever read. I bookmarked it....it's that good.
Many have swallowed the lie that Mother Theresa was saintly. She was anything but; instead she was a callous witch who cavorted with devils like the dictator Duvalier. She prothlisized that those dying must suffer, and did nothing to ease that suffering.
Shame on the Catholic church for elevating her as a "saint".
Below, an ACADEMIC paper on the horrible scam she perpetuated on the world.
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