God sounds like a sick God.. (genesis, bible, quote, Christians)
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Are you living on the streets? Do you have food on your table? Do you have clothes on your back?
No but I still need one for myself. Food hurts me a lot. I'm not much of a clothes person, of course I wear them but I don't own that many outfits.
I may someday and I live in an apartment that adds to my anguish.
There should be more to life than just surviving esp after all that I've been through and if god exists he should acknowledge that. I am physically living but I'm not really alive most of the time.
Last edited by Nickchick; 02-18-2016 at 05:05 PM..
I'm not going to get into a discussion about the trinity with people who don't believe in the Bible.
Don't quite a few sects which fall under the Christian umbrella not recognize the trinity? JWs' don't, pretty sure. Nor do Mormons. Yet, they believe in the bible. I'm sure there's others.
Do you ever discuss things with them? Or are they shunned too?
ETA: If what I posted about the JWs and Mormons above is incorrect, I welcome correction.
. . . God took part of his own being to endure pain to save our sorry sinful behinds.
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
From WHAT, jeff??? From Him??? What kind of logic is that?
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
I'm not going to get into a discussion about the trinity with people who don't believe in the Bible.
Okay, but I believe in the Bible. So, What did He save us from by being scourged and crucified and How? Why didn't He just forgive us. What did we need to be saved from???
Don't quite a few sects which fall under the Christian umbrella not recognize the trinity? JWs' don't, pretty sure. Nor do Mormons. Yet, they believe in the bible. I'm sure there's others.
Do you ever discuss things with them? Or are they shunned too?
ETA: If what I posted about the JWs and Mormons above is incorrect, I welcome correction.
You are 100% correct with regards to Mormons. I don't accept the doctrine of the Trinity precisely because I believe the Bible, not despite my belief in it.
Don't quite a few sects which fall under the Christian umbrella not recognize the trinity? JWs' don't, pretty sure. Nor do Mormons. Yet, they believe in the bible. I'm sure there's others.
Do you ever discuss things with them? Or are they shunned too?
ETA: If what I posted about the JWs and Mormons above is incorrect, I welcome correction.
He doesn't want to get into a discussion about the Trinity because deep down he knows there is a possibility that he will see the truth in it and that scares him...
No but I still need one for myself. Food hurts me a lot. I'm not much of a clothes person, of course I wear them but I don't own that many outfits.
I may someday and I live in an apartment that adds to my anguish.
There should be more to life than just surviving esp after all that I've been through and if god exists he should acknowledge that. I am physically living but I'm not really alive most of the time.
What is sick is this distortion of the truth. We are the children of God. It it sick to think of a father willing to do anything including endure real physical torture and pain to save his children? That's what God did. The Bible is pretty clear that Jesus and God are not completely separate entities. They are part of the same so in essense, God took part of his own being to endure pain to save our sorry sinful behinds.
But I thought God is supposed to be all powerful, all enduring and so on. So why would he need to go through all that complicated, pie in the sky rigmarole, to "save our sorry sinful behinds"? Why not just create us right in the first place? Why not just forgive us in the second place? After all, he created us sinful to start with. We are created in God's image! Wait a minute ... !? Oops! Now I get it.
Yes, let's look at "proof" of other things, shall we?
Proof of the Loch Ness Monster
Proof of ghosts
Proof of Bigfoot.
Now, Jeff, I expect you to now believe in all these things, since your idea of proof is simply a photo and eyewitness accounts. These all have plenty. So, I am glad to know you now believe in Nessie, ghosts, and Bigfoot!!
But I thought God is supposed to be all powerful, all enduring and so on. So why would he need to go through all that complicated, pie in the sky rigmarole, to "save our sorry sinful behinds"? Why not just create us right in the first place? Why not just forgive us in the second place? After all, he created us sinful to start with. We are created in God's image! Wait a minute ... !? Oops! Now I get it.
I get it too. The Christian god is a masochist and he thinks we SHOULD be the same so of course he would let us suffer here on earth. It all makes sense.
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Yes, let's look at "proof" of other things, shall we?
