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Old 01-22-2016, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Jesus sat down and wrote the whole New Testament. Why do you ask?
Umm... no he didn't. Nowhere in the bible does it say that. But of course, you just said that to make a point or something.
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Old 01-22-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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Umm... no he didn't. Nowhere in the bible does it say that. But of course, you just said that to make a point or something.
If you think of it like this: The apostles had the spirit of Christ in them. Jesus sent the consoler and said that the consoler would:

Joh_14:26 Now the consoler, the holy spirit, which the Father will be sending in My name, that will be teaching you all, and reminding you of all that I said to you."

So, the writers of the four accounts remembered all that Christ said.

So, in a sense, when they sat down to write their accounts, Christ sat with them.

This is so also of the Old Testament writers:
1Pe_1:11 searching into what or what manner of era the spirit of Christ in them made evident, when testifying beforehand to the sufferings pertaining to Christ and the glories after these."
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Old 01-22-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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If you think of it like this: The apostles had the spirit of Christ in them. Jesus sent the consoler and said that the consoler would:

Joh_14:26 Now the consoler, the holy spirit, which the Father will be sending in My name, that will be teaching you all, and reminding you of all that I said to you."

So, the writers of the four accounts remembered all that Christ said.

So, in a sense, when they sat down to write their accounts, Christ sat with them.

This is so also of the Old Testament writers:
1Pe_1:11 searching into what or what manner of era the spirit of Christ in them made evident, when testifying beforehand to the sufferings pertaining to Christ and the glories after these."
So, that is a not then. Moving on.....
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Old 01-22-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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At 27:42 the speaker talks about it being impossible for a river to cut out the Grand Canyon. It goes to 33:54.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS3s8QGpaKQ

For instance, how did the Colorado river flow uphill for thousands of feet to cut the Grand Canyon?
Only a world-wide flood could have accomplished this.
And some say there is no evidence of a world-wide flood!

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Old 01-22-2016, 12:56 PM
 
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At 27:42 the speaker talks about it being impossible for a river to cut out the Grand Canyon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS3s8QGpaKQ

For instance, how did the Colorado river flow uphill for thousands of feet to cut the Grand Canyon?
Only a world-wide flood could have accomplished this.
And some say there is no evidence of a world-wide flood!
Does the Colorado River flow uphill right now? Why is that the only alternative to there being a worldwide flood.

Here's a quick video to help illustrate the most common explanation.
The Grand Canyon: How It Formed | Science | Video | PBS LearningMedia


Seriously, the Shamwow guy repacking the YEC leader John D Morris' speculative claims is not convincing. Least of all convincing to believe a worldwide flood. And even less convincing as a proof of divine flooding.

Are you familiar with the Great Flood of Gilgamesh? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh
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Old 01-22-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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From around 33:55 onward you will see evidence of a modern event which created a smaller version of the Grand Canion which occurred in our life time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS3s8QGpaKQ

Mt. Saint Helens volcano laid down hundreds of feet of stratified layers which didn't take millions of years to form. And then a river was dammed up by the ash and debris. Later the dam broke which this debri created and carved out a smaller version of the Grand Canyon.

This is also what caused the Grand Canyon. A huge dam broke and carved the canyon. The remnant waters of the world-wide flood was damned up and when it broke loose it carved the Grand Canyon. It didn't take millions of years.
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Old 01-22-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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Eusebius...do you know why John D Morris and YEC are the only ones making videos and asserting conclusions on the Grand Canyon?
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Old 01-22-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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This is also what caused the Grand Canyon. A huge dam broke and carved the canyon. The remnant waters of the world-wide flood was damned up and when it broke loose it carved the Grand Canyon. It didn't take millions of years.
Wow. Alert the National Park Service. Having attended numerous NPS lectures at the Grand Canyon I can report NONE of them are claiming that astounding piece of information as fact.

Probably because they are geologists and archaeologists and not fanatical religious "scholars" who make up theories to fit stories in the Old Testament.
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Old 01-22-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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Eusebius...do you know why John D Morris and YEC are the only ones making videos and asserting conclusions on the Grand Canyon?
How do you know they are the only ones?
If they are the only ones, maybe it is because they are some of the ones in a position of authority who know the truth of the matter.

Don't you think it is improper to suggest, which is really what you are doing, that if one believes in a Young Earth Creation that they can't possibly use common sense on other matters?

I'm sure your scientists would look at the sedimentary layers of Mt. St. Helens and say it took millions of years to form those layers and millions to carve them just like they do the sedimentary layers of the Grand Canyon.
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Old 01-22-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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Wow. Alert the National Park Service. Having attended numerous NPS lectures at the Grand Canyon I can report NONE of them are claiming that astounding piece of information as fact.

Probably because they are geologists and archaeologists and not fanatical religious "scholars" who make up theories to fit stories in the Old Testament.

That is because they were brainwashed with the theory of Uniformitarianism rather than properly instructed in Catastrophism.
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