No God More Suicide - US Suicide Rate Increases 24% (Allah, sin, godless)
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Every time? Well then, perhaps you should consider the common denominator there, Jeff. Nearly everyone I know IRL is Christian and I haven't had negative experiences with any of them, nor any of them with me. If every single atheist you run into turns into a negative experience, and they're all different, varied people, and the one constant in the situation is you, well...I mean...?
Well that's just it. They are not different. They all talk in the same condescending snarky arrogant bitter tone, hey yourself included. I honestly can't tell a Jerz apart from a Troutdude or a Nozz. And if you are going to claim I'm the only one who gets attacked here then you are either blatantly blind or dishonest.
Just heard on TV news that 22 veterans per day commit suicide. Maybe if "Christians" would stop cheering on wars that number could be reduced. But the modus operandi of conservative churches has as its theme song "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."
What war is showing people of peace is that no amount of "faith," "flag-waving," and "prayer for vets," can mitigate the awful impact on those the "faithful" send to fight often unjustified or falsely justified (Weapons of Mass Destruction) wars.
What would jeffbase do to halt his part in those suicides?
Absolutely Warden....amen (from an atheist).
What we actually have is a bizarrely constructed subculture which combines jingoism and some sort of authoritarianism masked under Christianity. Not too different from the same elements that hijack Islam.
And the irony of it all....is that the same cure to both of them is precisely what they rail against. Actually loving and caring about their neighbors....not just the ones who profess their same ignorance.
Well that's just it. They are not different. They all talk in the same condescending snarky arrogant bitter tone, hey yourself included. I honestly can't tell a Jerz apart from a Troutdude or a Nozz. And if you are going to claim I'm the only one who gets attacked here then you are either blatantly blind or dishonest.
No. They are different people as in, one is Jake, one is John, one is Mary (or whatever)...right? I'm assuming?
So. Lots of individual human beings.
Along with...only you.
And folks not getting along.
I'm doing the math and it makes sense to me, you may wish to take a few minutes and catch the association. It's a pretty simple one.
Now, as to you not being able to tell anyone apart, LOL...
I can tell you I'm not Troutdude or Nozz. I've argued with Nozz before, actually, LOL. We for sure don't agree. I don't like him very much (sorry, Nozz) and I don't feel much love for him. We have a lot of very very very different ideas and our personalities certainly aren't very similar. Trout - our beliefs are different and he's a thousand percent more mellow than I. He's cooler, too. If you're actually not able to tell the differences among people, you're pretty narrow-sighted, frankly. And BTW...Troutdude is not an atheist, LOL. Nozz is, though. I'm...agnostic and constantly questioning. Three different belief systems and among the three "atheists" you've listed as being just the same only one is actually an atheist. So maybe you don't mean atheists all sound the same, but that absolutely anybody who doesn't agree with you sounds like every other person who doesn't agree with you?
So. Again, nearly everyone I know is Christian, and I am just not having any problems, not IRL where people show their faces. Anonymously on the internet when people can let their hair down, so to speak, more issues but still sure as heck not an issue with EVERY Christian, that would be impossible. Really, that is some feat, Jeff. I have no clue how you're managing it.
No. They are different people as in, one is Jake, one is John, one is Mary (or whatever)...right? I'm assuming?
So. Lots of individual human beings.
Along with...only you.
And folks not getting along.
I'm doing the math and it makes sense to me, you may wish to take a few minutes and catch the association. It's a pretty simple one.
Now, as to you not being able to tell anyone apart, LOL...
I can tell you I'm not Troutdude or Nozz. I've argued with Nozz before, actually, LOL. We for sure don't agree. I don't like him very much (sorry, Nozz) and I don't feel much love for him. We have a lot of very very very different ideas and our personalities certainly aren't very similar. Trout - our beliefs are different and he's a thousand percent more mellow than I. He's cooler, too. If you're actually not able to tell the differences among people, you're pretty narrow-sighted, frankly. And BTW...Troutdude is not an atheist, LOL. Nozz is, though. I'm...agnostic and constantly questioning. Three different belief systems and among the three "atheists" you've listed as being just the same only one is actually an atheist. So maybe you don't mean atheists all sound the same, but that absolutely anybody who doesn't agree with you sounds like every other person who doesn't agree with you?
So. Again, nearly everyone I know is Christian, and I am just not having any problems, not IRL where people show their faces. Anonymously on the internet when people can let their hair down, so to speak, more issues but still sure as heck not an issue with EVERY Christian, that would be impossible. Really, that is some feat, Jeff. I have no clue how you're managing it.
I thought Trout keeps telling Jeff that he is not an atheist.
Just heard on TV news that 22 veterans per day commit suicide. Maybe if "Christians" would stop cheering on wars that number could be reduced. But the modus operandi of conservative churches has as its theme song "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."
What war is showing people of peace is that no amount of "faith," "flag-waving," and "prayer for vets," can mitigate the awful impact on those the "faithful" send to fight often unjustified or falsely justified (Weapons of Mass Destruction) wars.
What would jeffbase do to halt his part in those suicides?
Ignore the problem just like he ignored this post?
Having posted about veterans suicide (that number will go up before it goes down), PTSD and homelessness in the past I can report that far-right Christians are VERY good at ignoring these men and women.
Well that's just it. They are not different. They all talk in the same condescending snarky arrogant bitter tone, hey yourself included. I honestly can't tell a Jerz apart from a Troutdude or a Nozz. And if you are going to claim I'm the only one who gets attacked here then you are either blatantly blind or dishonest.
There was a great show recently - I forget the name - where some people were sent out to walk the streets and see if the general feeling was bad out in the world today. So out they went looking and they generally found it was so. They reported back that most people seemed to be in bad mood.
The next day however the host of the show - some derren brown type - sent them out to see if the mood was better. And do you know what? It was! Most people seemed to be much happier that day.
Why? Because on day 1 they went out _looking_ for angry expressions and bad humor. On day 2 they went out _looking_ for happy faces and nice people. Their brain filtered for what they were looking for.
I suspect the same issue might be at play with you. I had to go back over some of your posts to check some facts before I first wrote in this thread - and one thing I noticed is that you almost consistently read and reply to only the posters who you think you can spin as being snarky or insulting - and you totally and completely ignore the posts that are not.
Including mine on this thread which did not contain one shred of snark - condescension - or attack on Christianity or on you. And my last post to you on another thread not so long ago. You simply ignored both.
Which leaves only one question open - whether you do this consciously or unconsciously. _That_ you do it is entirely clear. Whether you are aware of doing it however is not. The people in the TV show I mentioned were not.
I _suspect_ you are aware of it - and in fact it is your main intention - and the users you _just_ listed are all ones that are the most calm, concise, polite, patient, genuine and intellectual users on the forum in general. But it is only a suspicion and I withhold judgement at this time.
But I am genuinely open to the possibility you simply are oblivious to it. And if this is the case I suggest you try an experiment for 10 days and see if you - like the people in the TV show - notice a genuine change.
That is - simply do not reply at all in any way to the people you think are beneath contempt in how they conduct themselves - not even to tell them you will not be replying to them - I mean literally read them and move on and no more.
So just like the TV people found bad when they looked for bad and found good when they were looking for good - I suspect you are falling into the same trap.
And when you see someone who write a genuine thought out post or rebuttal - engage them on this level and reply.
And above all when you are trying to reply to them do so directly. To _them_. Without this sentence structure you often fall into of the form "You atheists are always - " or "This is just another example of you atheists - ".
Drop this "You atheists" structure you reply on so heavily and reply to each individual like - well - like an individual. Because a _lot_ of the ire I observe directed at you - which you perceive as hatred of you - Christianity - or both - is actually nothing more than a reaction to your "You Atheists" us against them structures.
But as I said - if you actually _want_ to maintain this image that all atheists are snarky and arrogant and aggressive then you are not going to be interested in this experiment. You will simply continue to react to the people that fit the spin you want to put on it - and ignore the ones who do take the time to engage intellectually and cordially and honestly.
But as I said - if you actually _want_ to maintain this image that all atheists are snarky and arrogant and aggressive then you are not going to be interested in this experiment. You will simply continue to react to the people that fit the spin you want to put on it - and ignore the ones who do take the time to engage intellectually and cordially and honestly.
Well of course. The human mind is wired by natural selection to be very sensitive to anything resembling a threat, and to pay relatively little mind to neutral and positive inputs. Because people who run from even potential threats first and ask questions later tend to live (in the sense of, survive). In order for Jeff's quality of life to improve he would have to work deliberately and consistently on letting go of negative perceptions and seek out positive ones. He would have to have the charity to think, well there goes Mordant again, I don't agree with his thinking there but he certainly means well and tries his best to do well. I think he actually cares enough to want to persuade me of what he sees as better ways of thinking. How nice that people exist like that. Maybe I can even convince him of MY beliefs one day, wouldn't that be great?
But no ... Jeff demonstrably would rather demonize people who disagree with them, see them in the worst possible light, and use them as evidence for his chosen persecution narratives and his chosen effort-free black-and-white evidence-free thought patterns (No god = more suicide, etc).
So it goes.
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So maybe you don't mean atheists all sound the same, but that absolutely anybody who doesn't agree with you sounds like every other person who doesn't agree with you?
