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Old 05-18-2016, 02:01 AM
 
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The Jew, the apostle Paul, wrote those verses above warning against fables. He also wrote concerning the historic Adam and Eve quite extensively, and wrote about them as historic figures. Therefore he did not consider Adam and Eve or their creation and sin as a fable.
But isn't that a good reason to reject anything this apostle Paul dude said?
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:33 AM
 
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If he had written about one of Aesop's fables to illustrate a point would you assume then that he thought they were historical fact too??? Your belief in the fables is irrational, Eusebius.
But Paul wouldn't write about Aesop's Fables because he told us not to listen to fables.

Therefore, when he wrote concerning Adam and Eve he was not writing about fables.
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:34 AM
 
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The Jew, the apostle Paul, wrote those verses above warning against fables. He also wrote concerning the historic Adam and Eve quite extensively, and wrote about them as historic figures. Therefore he did not consider Adam and Eve or their creation and sin as a fable.
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But isn't that a good reason to reject anything this apostle Paul dude said?
Huh? No. That means it is a good reason to accept everything the apostle Paul wrote.
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:40 AM
 
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All this secret holy spirit decoder ring approach does is allow you to rationalize the parts of the bible that are nonsensical, contradictory or inappropriate.

If you do in fact "know deeper, hidden things of God in the Sacred Scriptures" then give us an example. Toss out a verse and give us the "deeper, hidden" meaning. After all, you are supposed to be sharing the gospel with unbelievers. Perhaps if you would give us a few "deeper, hidden meanings" we might see that light.
Ephesians 1:9-10 making known to us the secret of His will (in accord with His delight, which He purposed in Him)" (10) to have an administration of the complement of the eras, to head up all in the Christ - both that in the heavens and that on the earth"

The eras are lacking something in fulfilling God's plan for the universe. The ecclesia will take part in filling or completing the lack of the eras by being part of an administration to head up all in the Christ--both all in the heavens and all on the earth.

Have you ever heard a sermon on that passage in any church?
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:34 PM
 
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If he had written about one of Aesop's fables to illustrate a point would you assume then that he thought they were historical fact too??? Your belief in the fables is irrational, Eusebius.
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But Paul wouldn't write about Aesop's Fables because he told us not to listen to fables.
Therefore, when he wrote concerning Adam and Eve he was not writing about fables.
You are hopeless, Eusebius. God forgive you for perpetuating ignorance and superstition.
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Old 05-19-2016, 12:07 AM
 
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But Paul wouldn't write about Aesop's Fables because he told us not to listen to fables.

Therefore, when he wrote concerning Adam and Eve he was not writing about fables.
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You are hopeless, Eusebius. God forgive you for perpetuating ignorance and superstition.
But you must admit that was clever come back.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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But you must admit that was clever come back.
Sometimes the truth hurts and then it sets you free. He who is free is free indeed.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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You are hopeless, Eusebius. God forgive you for perpetuating ignorance and superstition.
I'll take that answer as: "Eusebius, darn it! You got me again! I just can't withstand your wisdom and understanding!"
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:23 AM
 
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I'll take that answer as: "Eusebius, darn it! You got me again! I just can't withstand your wisdom and understanding!"
Eusie, I wish I had your tenacity! You're like a bulldog with a bone.
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Old 05-20-2016, 03:34 PM
 
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Eusie, I wish I had your tenacity! You're like a bulldog with a bone.
More like a Pit Bull.
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