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Old 07-30-2016, 11:05 AM
 
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...but remember. For members of TeamFundie dating methods are only reliable up 6000 years.
And don't pay attention to the use of tree rings either! Them trees lie! That's just satan and the *******s using the trees to make the Bible look stupid. Edumication ain't right!


"For instance, the bristlecone pine is exceptionally long-lived and slow growing, and has been used extensively for chronologies; still-living and dead specimens of this species provide tree-ring patterns going back thousands of years, in some regions more than 10,000 years.[25] Currently, the maximum span for fully anchored chronology is a little over 11,000 years B.P.[19]"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology
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Old 07-31-2016, 06:29 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Lee Berger, from Witwaterstrand U. in South Africa, likes to use the example of a braided stream. Our ancestors mated with other variants from time to time and sometimes that produced new variants. It's not a ladder, it's like those streams that run from the base of glaciers, separating, joining, separating again, joining again, until we got here.

And all that in 6,020 years. Amazing.


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Old 07-31-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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Lee Berger, from Witwaterstrand U. in South Africa, likes to use the example of a braided stream. Our ancestors mated with other variants from time to time and sometimes that produced new variants. It's not a ladder, it's like those streams that run from the base of glaciers, separating, joining, separating again, joining again, until we got here.

And all that in 6,020 years. Amazing.


Yes, imagine that.
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Old 07-31-2016, 02:53 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Extremely interesting find, but one that should drive our YEC nuts. They (at least the one at the "Creative" Science museum I visited) now agree that Neanderthals were humans. Great. Now what is interesting how much further back down the Hominoid evolutionary chain will they say that they are human. I know, they will say if it can breed with you, it's human.

Of course there will be a point when that will backfire on them, and that point will come when DNA can be extracted on older finds, especially Homo Erectus.

Scientists Say A Mystery Species Bred with Ancient Humans in Distant Past | Ancient Origins

""These DNA sequences are not present in the genomes of living Europeans or east Asians, suggesting that the ancestors of these people met and bred with a mystery hominin in south Asia or the Pacific region, who left their genetic legacy in the area’s present-day populations.

The unidentified hominin may be Homo erectus or “upright man”, says Bertranpetit. H. erectus is believed to be the first hominin with a similar stature to today’s humans, and the first to leave Africa."
One of our long lost cousins.
"may be" is like admitting they don't really know." As usual no real scientific evidence was presented. Those who beleive without supporting evidence are the gullible ones

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Old 07-31-2016, 03:25 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Extremely interesting find, but one that should drive our YEC nuts. They (at least the one at the "Creative" Science museum I visited) now agree that Neanderthals were humans. Great. Now what is interesting how much further back down the Hominoid evolutionary chain will they say that they are human. I know, they will say if it can breed with you, it's human.

Of course there will be a point when that will backfire on them, and that point will come when DNA can be extracted on older finds, especially Homo Erectus.

Scientists Say A Mystery Species Bred with Ancient Humans in Distant Past | Ancient Origins

""These DNA sequences are not present in the genomes of living Europeans or east Asians, suggesting that the ancestors of these people met and bred with a mystery hominin in south Asia or the Pacific region, who left their genetic legacy in the area’s present-day populations.

The unidentified hominin may be Homo erectus or “upright manâ€, says Bertranpetit. H. erectus is believed to be the first hominin with a similar stature to today’s humans, and the first to leave Africa."
One of our long lost cousins.
Please learn how to properly use the reply and quote functions. Your responses will make more sense, so we don't have to try and decipher what you posted.
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Old 07-31-2016, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Please learn how to properly use the reply and quote functions. Your responses will make more sense, so we don't have to try and decipher what you posted.
I think what he was trying to post was ""may be" is like admitting they don't really know." As usual no real scientific evidence was presented. Those who beleive without supporting evidence are the gullible ones"

And of course that shows incomprehension because the "may be" that was reference ONLY referred to the speculation that the unidintified hominin was homo erectus, and in NO way referred to the findings of the research otherwise.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:54 PM
 
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I fixed the quote tags in post #34. The next 2 are not worth the effort to decipher how the original quotes should be.
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Old 07-31-2016, 08:31 PM
 
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I think what he was trying to post was ""may be" is like admitting they don't really know." As usual no real scientific evidence was presented. Those who beleive without supporting evidence are the gullible ones"

And of course that shows incomprehension because the "may be" that was reference ONLY referred to the speculation that the unidintified hominin was homo erectus, and in NO way referred to the findings of the research otherwise.
Thank you. This is not the first time that a 'Maybe' or 'Perhaps' relating to a specific unknown in a general pretty well demonstrated piece of research was taken out of context as a pretext to rubbish the whole piece of evolutionary research and, by extension, the whole of evolution -theory.

Where HAS Eusebius got to?
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Old 07-31-2016, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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And they think they are making sense.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:22 AM
 
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Where HAS Eusebius got to?
Maybe he needed to get a new alias...like Omega2xx...
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