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Old 04-07-2008, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK
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Are you being tolerant of my views ? Interesting that those who say be tolerant, really mean shut up.

Yes this is a free country, and I have the right to say religion is BS.

Religion brings nothing but harm, it is dangerous.
I'm not saying shut up, I'm saying have a little respect for other people. Imagine what this world would be if we were all just a little more respectful of each other- and this goes for atheists, believers, and everyone else.
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:07 PM
 
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Live and let die.
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:41 PM
 
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to the OP: seeing as how this man looked as if he had lived a long life and was very wise, i would have asked the question in return. i would have loved to hear wether or not he believed
i love to learn!
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:35 PM
 
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I'm not saying shut up, I'm saying have a little respect for other people. Imagine what this world would be if we were all just a little more respectful of each other- and this goes for atheists, believers, and everyone else.
So you do not want to talk about why christians are so much more proseltising then any other group.
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I'd like to start out by saying that I'd appreciate some other Atheist perspectives on this. Believers are welcome to answer, but please try to put this into my perspective before answering.

About two years ago, I was living in an apartment complex. I usually change the oil in my vehicles myself but I had nowhere to store the oil pan so I just took it to the local Jiffy Lube. For anyone who has been in one of these places, the waiting area is very small and there's usually 3-4 people in there. As I was sitting there this kindly old man walked in the door. His demeanor bespoke of someone who had been through a lot in his life and he had been wisened as to the ways of the world. He was a calm, gentle man and the best visual reference I can think of would be a Morgan Freeman. However this man was a good 20 years older. He seemed kindly and gentle but like he was lonely and looking for conversation. Some thoughts ran through my mind. Had his loving wife of many years just died? How much strife and turmoil had those wise old eyes seen? I thought to myself "There's a man who has seen a lot in his life!" He sat down across from me.

There were several other people in this tiny waiting room all reading magazines. I was the only one not reading a magazine. I was just kind of staring at the ceiling. He looked directly at me and said "Do you believe in Jesus?" I was kind of taken aback at being directly asked in front of a crowd of people...

I looked at him and replied......



Ok here's what I want to know. Before I say what my response was, what do you think it was and what would you have said? Keep in mind that this is a man who was not preaching. He wasn't trying to witness or convert. There are certain things you can gauge from the way people's body language reflect, and I can assure you this was nothing more than an attempt at starting a friendly conversation. Also keep in mind that everyone in the waiting room is "All eyes on you". What do you say in response to something like that?

For the believers, I welcome your response, but try to put yourself in the context of a kindly Arab gentleman asking if you believe in Allah, or if you can, put yourself in the Atheist perspective.

Edit: I felt it very important to note that I'm not trying to put an "I'm better than you" tone to this. I'm simply asking what your response would have been and why.
My response is..."Why do you ask?" If I don't like the answer I get there, I might walk away.
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:14 AM
 
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So many people say " you can not prove God or Jesus exists"
I say, you can not prove they do not exist. Let people believe if they want to believe.
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:23 PM
 
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So many people say " you can not prove God or Jesus exists"
I say, you can not prove they do not exist. Let people believe if they want to believe.
I say you cant prove that there isnt a magical tea pot orbiting the sun.

You make the claim you provide the proof.
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I think I would first have answered, "Believe what about Jesus?" Then, if the questioner queried you about a particular doctrinal point, you could have simply replied, "No, I don't believe that because, even if Jesus actually lived and believed himself to be the Son of God, I don't believe that Jesus was divine in any sense of the word."
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Old 04-10-2008, 04:54 PM
 
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what about the tea pot ?
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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what about the tea pot ?
Personally I am an ateapotist.
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