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Old 12-30-2016, 05:59 PM
 
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Jesus was crucified by the Romans c. 30 – 33 AD.

No records of his resurrection or ascension have been found.

Paul, who was not a witness to either, wrote in 1 Cor 15 (c. 53-57 AD) that Jesus had appeared to 500 witnesses. That group of people would logically have included Jews, Romans, Greeks, and various other Gentiles residing in Jerusalem.

Paul’s letter was written to Corinth, 813 miles from Jerusalem in which these things were supposed to have taken place.

None of the 500 witnesses nor any of the thousands they would reasonably have told left any written records
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Based on the evidence, what historical credibility does the fact of the Resurrection have?

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Old 12-30-2016, 06:41 PM
 
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Jesus was crucified by the Romans c. 30 – 33 AD.

No records of his resurrection or ascension have been found.

Paul, who was not a witness to either, wrote in 1 Cor 15 (c. 53-57 AD) that Jesus had appeared to 500 witnesses. That group of people would logically have included Jews, Romans, Greeks, and various other Gentiles residing in Jerusalem.

Paul’s letter was written to Corinth, 813 miles from Jerusalem in which these things were supposed to have taken place.

None of the 500 witnesses nor any of the thousands they would reasonably have told left any written records
.
Based on the evidence, what historical credibility does the fact of the Resurrection have?
The Apostle Peter details an eye-witness account of both in Acts 2.
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Old 12-30-2016, 06:58 PM
 
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Default Is the story of the Resurrection historically credible?

Yes, but NOT as a physical resurrection of the body, as a rebirth as Spirit.
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Old 12-30-2016, 09:01 PM
 
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The Apostle Peter details an eye-witness account of both in Acts 2.
"Proof" found within the same story book account for nothing. And you know that.
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:59 AM
 
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The only proof is that people who believe and call on the Lord can receive His Holy Spirit and be born again which is a profound way which every believer who receives this new creation from God confirms the promise of the Father made to Jesus at the resurrection to send His spirit from Acts 1,2, and millions of Christians have received this promise would be the only historical proof , as the world of historians is blinded of the things of God and would ignore the testimony of millions of people .....
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Old 12-31-2016, 03:23 AM
 
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Based on the evidence, what historical credibility does the fact of the Resurrection have?
Absolutely none whatsoever (and the resurrection isn't a 'fact', it's a belief). Perhaps you are putting the cart before the horse. Before looking at whether or not the resurrection is historically credible, it would be better to look if the Jesus of the gospels is historically credible. The answer to that of course is a resounding no...and that my friend answers the question in your OP.
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Old 12-31-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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The Apostle Peter details an eye-witness account of both in Acts 2.
RESPONSE: Acts of the Apostles was written about 80 AD at which time Peter had been dead for 25 years.

It was not written by Peter. It is claimed to have been written by Luke who was neither an Apostle nor a witness to the Resurrection.
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Old 12-31-2016, 08:36 AM
 
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The only proof is that people who believe and call on the Lord can receive His Holy Spirit and be born again which is a profound way which every believer who receives this new creation from God confirms the promise of the Father made to Jesus at the resurrection to send His spirit from Acts 1,2, and millions of Christians have received this promise would be the only historical proof , as the world of historians is blinded of the things of God and would ignore the testimony of millions of people .....
RESPONSE: Kind of wishful thinking, isn't it?

Are you offering an actual evidence of a Resurrection?
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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Jesus was crucified by the Romans c. 30 – 33 AD.

No records of his resurrection or ascension have been found.

Paul, who was not a witness to either, wrote in 1 Cor 15 (c. 53-57 AD) that Jesus had appeared to 500 witnesses. That group of people would logically have included Jews, Romans, Greeks, and various other Gentiles residing in Jerusalem.

Paul’s letter was written to Corinth, 813 miles from Jerusalem in which these things were supposed to have taken place.

None of the 500 witnesses nor any of the thousands they would reasonably have told left any written records
.
Based on the evidence, what historical credibility does the fact of the Resurrection have?
Have you looked for extrabiblical acounts in secular history?

The Nazareth Inscription: Proof of the Resurrection of Christ? Part I

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The Nazareth Inscription took the scholarly world by storm because, as will be seen, it could be read as an imperial decree against the Apostles stealing Christ’s body from His tomb and faking His resurrection. It is also very similar to the Jewish high-priestly version of the resurrection of Christ as found in Matthew 28:11-15—in other words, His disciples stole His body from the tomb.

Cumont’s publication of the Nazareth Inscription led to a snowstorm of scholarly articles; more than twenty were published by the end of 1932. None of these early articles questioned the authenticity of the Nazareth Inscription. It is highly unlikely that it is a forgery. As will be seen, the Greek text of this Inscription and its historical connections provide strong support for its authenticity. However, its interpretation and possible connection to the story of the resurrection of Christ are still hotly debated today.
If you want other extrabiblical accounts; there is verification of the darkness at His crucifixion; one secular historian, Thallus, made the mistake of saying that it was caused by an eclipse, but another secular historian, Julius Africanus, said that it was unlikely because there was a full moon that day.

P.S. This site will list some gnostic sources wherein I do not believe those lost books of the Bible are scripture, but frauds because they contain verses that run against the truths in the accepted books of the Bible;

But the site does list secular historical sources validating the unexplained darkness at His crucifixon.

Extra-Biblical Historical Evidence of Jesus

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Julius Africanus, writing around 221 AD, found a reference in the writings of Thallus, who wrote a history of the Eastern Mediterranean around 52 AD, which dealt with the darkness that covered the land during Jesus' crucifixion:
"Thallus, in the third book of his histories, explains away the darkness as an eclipse of the sun--unreasonably, as it seems to me." [A solar eclipse could not take place during a full moon, as was the case during Passover season.]
So feel free to use the internet in finding other extrabiblical sources supporting indirectly the Biblical account of Jesus Christ.

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Old 12-31-2016, 09:40 AM
 
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Jesus was crucified by the Romans c. 30 – 33 AD.

No records of his resurrection or ascension have been found.

Paul, who was not a witness to either, wrote in 1 Cor 15 (c. 53-57 AD) that Jesus had appeared to 500 witnesses. That group of people would logically have included Jews, Romans, Greeks, and various other Gentiles residing in Jerusalem.

Paul’s letter was written to Corinth, 813 miles from Jerusalem in which these things were supposed to have taken place.

None of the 500 witnesses nor any of the thousands they would reasonably have told left any written records
.
Based on the evidence, what historical credibility does the fact of the Resurrection have?
Yes. Of course it's credible. We have 4 books written about Jesus from the first century, as well as the church that was founded and grew exponentially as a result. Those cannot be dismissed.
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