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Old 02-07-2017, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Fundamentalist religions that teach hatred must be eliminated.

They are the #1 threat to the world today that isn't wearing an orange face.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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What ever happened to hate the sin, but love the sinner? It's their SON for heck's sake. By going to his wedding, they are supporting him, not the wedding or disavowing their belief. It is a strange, twisted belief system of those, like you, who promulgate anything else. How are you different from a radical Islamist who hates Christians? What a disgusting philosophy.
No one suggested that we should hate a kid. We don't stone gay people or toss them off of buildings.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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No one suggested that we should hate a kid. We don't stone gay people or toss them off of buildings.
Ahhh the at least we don't stone them defense. I am sure gay Christians across the planet are wiping their brows.

I prefer the just leave your brothers and sisters alone, philosophy.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Under the Redwoods
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No one suggested that we should hate a kid. We don't stone gay people or toss them off of buildings.
But it's okay to turn your back on them?
I don't think Jesus would approve.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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But it's okay to turn your back on them?
I don't think Jesus would approve.
Christian fundamentalists don't talk much about Jesus. They prefer his (putative) old man.

Liberal Christians are all about Jesus.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:23 PM
 
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weird how when the roles are reversed you're not so nice.
You've told me numerous times you are unhappy with my conduct. You frequently shake your finger at the people with whom you disagree. Maybe you should see if you can make it a sticky at the top of the forum. It would save you a lot of time.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:24 PM
 
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Would he invite his dads? I mean, if he thinks they're committing a horrible sin, and he can't show any sign of endorsing their relationship or it would be an afront to God, why would he want them there? Or would be stipulate that they have to sit on separate sides of the church, and not touch, or- God forbid - kiss.

I want details.
Maybe the ordination includes a "Pray Away the Gay" ceremony.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:49 PM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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I have to wonder how much money the parents got, for being on the show. And I wonder how much of this was scripted or coached, by the show's producers.

But truly, those parents would probably have been serious downers, at a wedding. And they probably would have been knocking on every door in the neighborhood, trying to share "The News!". So honestly, who needs 'em?

Personally, I would have been more worried, had I been them, about my son's ugly hairdo, that grotesquely unflattering chinstrap beard, that little earbob, and those skinny jeans making his hips look a YARD wide. Those are "my beliefs", and I'm sticking with them!

I told our children, when they were still in elementary school, that if they were going to do anything tacky at their weddings (like having dancing), that I'd stay home. So, if the parent is a stickler for DOGMA, rather than for seemliness, then I suppose I understand.

As it is, we flew-in our daughter's husband-to-be's Bishop, from Scandinavia. And we flew-in our daughter's favorite Rabbi, from down Australia way. The Bishop and the Rebbe turned out to have LOTS in common (including multiple languages), so they and their wives ended up, after the wedding, taking our Gelandewagen down the Pacific Coast, all the way to La Jolla. Lucky for us, they tired-out, before continuing down the Baja. In that case we wouldn't have wanted the vehicle back.

And I've already told our sons, that if they want to marry their favorite six FWB friendgirls (sometimes, I go down to the Breakfast Room, and all six of them are at the table...), in one mass 2 Grooms & 6 Brides ceremony, that I'd be the happiest mother-in-law who ever lived - as long as the invitations were done properly, and there wasn't anything tacky/schmalzy/pageant-like about the wedding.

Anyway, I guess this means we don't give a flip about dogma, but do care a whole lot about aesthetics and status.

But thanks, OP! I love Australian TV, and now have a new show to watch on YouTube!
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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The most heart-rending part of it, to me personally, was when the young man told his parents, "Over the past 18 years, I've not called on you when I needed you." He's sharing his grief at feeling abandoned by them, and he's saying to his parents he STILL needs them, and they just "civilly" ignore his plea. I mean, they didn't even ACKNOWLEDGE his pain. HOW do you harden your heart against your child like that?
Well, it's easy.... You become a religious whack job, and value that over your own flesh and blood...


Read: You become a terrible person and think you aren't.
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Old 02-07-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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I have to wonder how much money the parents got, for being on the show. And I wonder how much of this was scripted or coached, by the show's producers.

But truly, those parents would probably have been serious downers, at a wedding. And they probably would have been knocking on every door in the neighborhood, trying to share "The News!". So honestly, who needs 'em?

Personally, I would have been more worried, had I been them, about my son's ugly hairdo, that grotesquely unflattering chinstrap beard, that little earbob, and those skinny jeans making his hips look a YARD wide. Those are "my beliefs", and I'm sticking with them!

I told our children, when they were still in elementary school, that if they were going to do anything tacky at their weddings (like having dancing), that I'd stay home. So, if the parent is a stickler for DOGMA, rather than for seemliness, then I suppose I understand.

As it is, we flew-in our daughter's husband-to-be's Bishop, from Scandinavia. And we flew-in our daughter's favorite Rabbi, from down Australia way. The Bishop and the Rebbe turned out to have LOTS in common (including multiple languages), so they and their wives ended up, after the wedding, taking our Gelandewagen down the Pacific Coast, all the way to La Jolla. Lucky for us, they tired-out, before continuing down the Baja. In that case we wouldn't have wanted the vehicle back.

And I've already told our sons, that if they want to marry their favorite six FWB friendgirls (sometimes, I go down to the Breakfast Room, and all six of them are at the table...), in one mass 2 Grooms & 6 Brides ceremony, that I'd be the happiest mother-in-law who ever lived - as long as the invitations were done properly, and there wasn't anything tacky/schmalzy/pageant-like about the wedding.

Anyway, I guess this means we don't give a flip about dogma, but do care a whole lot about aesthetics and status.

But thanks, OP! I love Australian TV, and now have a new show to watch on YouTube!
So, no scratch and sniff reply cards?
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