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If you're going to repeat what some hack "scholar" suggested, then I'll correct said hack scholar.
Says the guy who claims he has a master's in theology but posted that he learned about Islam by reading the internet.
p.s. I'm not the person who brought up the Biblical scholars. I simply used them to find out why you believe you are right about everything. If you can't keep your fellow posters straight....I suggest flash cards.
Now.... tell us how you know they are "hack" scholars. Since no names were mentioned and you have ZERO idea what their qualifications are. Are the evangelicals who have studied the Bible and think you are going to hell for having a tatt "hack" scholars?
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Why would we expect anyone to embrace that which they consider to be sin and an affront to their faith? It doesn't mean one stops loving the kid, but we can't expect them to suspend everything they believe in and embrace something they believe God has declared to be evil.
Here is the problem, do we ask our children and spouses if they cheated on their taxes or ever stole a pencil? Stealing is a sin. Do we ask them if the harbor any bad will towards anybody? That is a sin. How about if they have been watching pornography? That is sin. Statistically, it is very likely that the father has or is.
We can love them without condoning. We can be present without condoning. They (the gay couple) know the truth, but they are making a different decision. A decision, that they have a right to make. Most of us sin throughout the day without even thinking about it.
Jesus was at a wedding where they ran out of wine. Surely, there were drunk people there. Last time I checked, drunkenness is a sin. Jesus made more wine; a wine, I have heard, that would have been much stronger than any wine we have today.
All sin is sin. All sin separates us from God. Jesus paid for all sins and belief in Him restores us to the Father. I get so tired of us focusing on just one sin.
Since most seminaries don't teach about OTHER religions...well...yah...that kind of makes sense.
Yeowza!
"Most" seminaries are producing graduates who have not learned about Jewish beliefs? Y'all know Jesus was a Jew, right? Well maybe you don't since you seem to be claiming your formal education did not include the basics of Jesus's beliefs so goodness knows what they told you about him.
"Most" seminaries are producing graduates who have not learned about Jewish beliefs? Y'all know Jesus was a Jew, right? Well maybe you don't since you seem to be claiming your formal education did not include the basics of Jesus's beliefs so goodness knows what they told you about him.
That explains a LOT.
I never said that, did I? Jewish history is also Christian history. Do you have a problem with being truthful? Is there a reason you keep taking liberties with my statements?
Obviously, it's 1 man, 1 woman. The Bible never defines "marriage" as being any of the others. You should learn the difference between "describe" and "define". They are 2 very differnt things.
And where do you see "definition" as opposed to "description?"
Oh goodness no. I love speaking the truth. One example was my statement that I think evangelicals who choose their religious beliefs over their gay children have been brainwashed. Often by their fellow evangelical conservatives who think gays (and people with tatts) are going to hell. I was being 100% truthful when I posted that.
Though the brainwashing might have a 50% effective rate for the evangelicals who wouldn't attend their gay child's wedding (because those are evil and sinful) but having their body inked isn't. Either that or they're just a bunch of people who pick and choose what is sinful. Which is very convenient for them. If gays get married: SINFUL!!! If evangelicals are tattooed and need to lose a few pounds because they are gluttons: Not sinful. Talk about the gays going to hell instead.
Oh goodness no. I love speaking the truth. One example was my statement that I think evangelicals who choose their religious beliefs over their gay children have been brainwashed.
I'm not sure I saw your answer to the hypothetical question. Did you approve of parents choosing their gay lifestyle over their evangelical kid?
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Often by their fellow evangelical conservatives who think gays (and people with tatts) are going to hell. I was being 100% truthful when I posted that.
I know you hate the fact that the Bible does say there is such a thing as sin, but there is. I don't know a Christian that has said they can't be forgiven of their sin, but it's interesting that you don't seem to have a problem with telling people to get over their sin if it's not one of the "approved" ones, like homoseuxality.
The most heart-rending part of it, to me personally, was when the young man told his parents, "Over the past 18 years, I've not called on you when I needed you." He's sharing his grief at feeling abandoned by them, and he's saying to his parents he STILL needs them, and they just "civilly" ignore his plea. I mean, they didn't even ACKNOWLEDGE his pain. HOW do you harden your heart against your child like that?
What about prior to 18 years when the parents took care of him since he was baby? This is the same mom who cleaned his diapers and fed her. This is the same father who worked day and night to make the ends meet and send him to school.
So what if he has not called them for the last 18 years for help? He can't make up for the parents favors and dedication towards him no matter what he does.
He can be as gay as he wants but to play it as a bargain chip 'that he hasn't called them for help in 18 years' is really a third class move, IMO.
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