Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-07-2017, 12:39 PM
 
19,942 posts, read 17,192,123 times
Reputation: 2017

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by DewDropInn View Post
Few people expect that. Which is why the young man in the video was so heartbroken and why so many LGBTQ don't have the love and support of their own families. The LGBTQ know they have been preached against. They know conservative Christians believe they are sinners. They know their conservative parents will reject them and choose their religious beliefs over them. They know there are pastors preaching and telling people that same-sex marriage is a sin. They know they are rejected by conservative churches and the people who sit in them.

Move along folks. Nothing to see here. Just two more conservative Christians parents who aren't there for their gay children. Just more sadness and rejection caused by religious beliefs.

Hopefully that young man and his partner have loving people in their lives. People who will be there for them and support them because they don't carry the awful prejudices religion creates.
Imagine being gay parents and a kid grows up to think that it's a horrible sin. He even gets ordained in a church that teaches that homosexuality is sinful. Would you expect dad and dad to attend his ordination and be happy for him?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-07-2017, 12:51 PM
 
6,961 posts, read 4,615,972 times
Reputation: 2485
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vizio View Post
Imagine being gay parents and a kid grows up to think that it's a horrible sin. He even gets ordained in a church that teaches that homosexuality is sinful. Would you expect dad and dad to attend his ordination and be happy for him?
Has that happened, or are we playing make-believe? I will play.


What if these parents are being held hostage by a cult. The cult is everywhere, and they do not want to anger the cult? Although Mom was doing most of the talking, what if Dad were blinking H_E_L_P, and the camera missed it?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2017, 12:53 PM
 
Location: USA
17,161 posts, read 11,392,298 times
Reputation: 2378
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vizio View Post
Why would we expect anyone to embrace that which they consider to be sin and an affront to their faith? It doesn't mean one stops loving the kid, but we can't expect them to suspend everything they believe in and embrace something they believe God has declared to be evil.
You talk about embracing someTHING. We're talking about embracing your CHILD. Those parents came nowhere near embracing their son. They kept him firmly at a distance.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2017, 01:04 PM
 
2,762 posts, read 3,186,661 times
Reputation: 5407
Really no different than when a person doesn't respect his/her parents, for whatever reason, so the person doesn't invite them to his/her wedding even though the parents really want to go.

Nothing wrong with living by your own morals as long as you aren't breaking the law.

We all aren't going to agree about everything and support everyone about everything.

We all take the good and bad with the choices we make in life.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2017, 01:09 PM
 
Location: USA
17,161 posts, read 11,392,298 times
Reputation: 2378
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vizio View Post
Imagine being gay parents and a kid grows up to think that it's a horrible sin. He even gets ordained in a church that teaches that homosexuality is sinful. Would you expect dad and dad to attend his ordination and be happy for him?
Would he invite his dads? I mean, if he thinks they're committing a horrible sin, and he can't show any sign of endorsing their relationship or it would be an afront to God, why would he want them there? Or would be stipulate that they have to sit on separate sides of the church, and not touch, or- God forbid - kiss.

I want details.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2017, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Under the Redwoods
3,751 posts, read 7,673,454 times
Reputation: 6118
It's always been my understanding that in Christianity, you 'hate the sin, love the sinner'...
Several Christians have spoken these words within my range of hearing them.
Guess this a lesser practiced thing among Christians.
Very sad all the way around.
I understand fully the emotional woes of being rejected by parents.
It's not a cool feeling at all regardless of the reason.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2017, 01:17 PM
 
32,516 posts, read 37,177,253 times
Reputation: 32581
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vizio View Post
Imagine being gay parents and a kid grows up to think that it's a horrible sin. He even gets ordained in a church that teaches that homosexuality is sinful. Would you expect dad and dad to attend his ordination and be happy for him?
I'd expect Dad and Dad to wonder who brainwashed their child into believing the hurtful, prejudiced preaching of anti-LGBTQ conservative Christians.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2017, 01:29 PM
 
19,942 posts, read 17,192,123 times
Reputation: 2017
Quote:
Originally Posted by DewDropInn View Post
I'd expect Dad and Dad to wonder who brainwashed their child into believing the hurtful, prejudiced preaching of anti-LGBTQ conservative Christians.
weird how when the roles are reversed you're not so nice.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2017, 01:30 PM
 
19,942 posts, read 17,192,123 times
Reputation: 2017
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleroo View Post
Would he invite his dads? I mean, if he thinks they're committing a horrible sin, and he can't show any sign of endorsing their relationship or it would be an afront to God, why would he want them there? Or would be stipulate that they have to sit on separate sides of the church, and not touch, or- God forbid - kiss.

I want details.
I invited my non-religious family that I loved to my ordination. It was a big moment in my life and I wanted those that I cared for to be there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2017, 01:58 PM
 
504 posts, read 300,195 times
Reputation: 494
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vizio View Post
Why would we expect anyone to embrace that which they consider to be sin and an affront to their faith? It doesn't mean one stops loving the kid, but we can't expect them to suspend everything they believe in and embrace something they believe God has declared to be evil.
What ever happened to hate the sin, but love the sinner? It's their SON for heck's sake. By going to his wedding, they are supporting him, not the wedding or disavowing their belief. It is a strange, twisted belief system of those, like you, who promulgate anything else. How are you different from a radical Islamist who hates Christians? What a disgusting philosophy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top