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The problem is not us demanding proof/evidence. The problem is theist claiming a supernatural being as fact with no evidence. They need to admit what you are saying that god cannot be proven.
They should admit that claiming all the supernatural events of the Bible have no factual bases or evidence. They need to admit they choose to believe these claims on faith alone. So, good luck solving this issue.
So if you were to ever believe in a potential God, you will probably lean more towards looking into a cow or an elephant?
Couple of other options could be stone statues, or perhaps in a Nepal where a female is considered to be God. Would that interest you?
The problem is not us demanding proof/evidence. The problem is theist claiming a supernatural being as fact with no evidence. They need to admit what you are saying that god cannot be proven.
They should admit that claiming all the supernatural events of the Bible have no factual bases or evidence. They need to admit they choose to believe these claims on faith alone. So, good luck solving this issue.
Not so. Indirect and anecdotal evidence IS evidence.
So, there's evidence...sufficient for most. Not for you..but for most.
You are looking for "hard evidence" that you can look at as "proof"...then you claim since that isn't submitted, that there is "no evidence".
Also...any group can assess the same evidence, and come to differing determinations.
For Example: Even with the SCOTUS, few decisions are unanimous, even though they are all working off the same evidence.
Then, how "The Majority" sees it, is determined to be "The Standard" everyone then goes by.
That is why "THEISM" and the concept that "GOD EXISTS" is The Standard in this world. It is based upon how The Majority determine it based upon the evidence.
So if you were to ever believe in a potential God, you will probably lean more towards looking into a cow or an elephant?
Couple of other options could be stone statues, or perhaps in a Nepal where a female is considered to be God. Would that interest you?
Why would anyone need to believe in a god?
It was already such for cavesmen, and still many of human kind. Ingrained probably. But what is certainly ingrained is the "need to know" and find a reason.
In a way, negating godS isn't so far, it is still searching for a reason as to how. Maybe a more rational one?
Which also negates your regular argument as to christianity dying in the west but growing in asia/africa.
Step by step. Christianity needs poor informed souls, after all, what educated person could fall for such a trick?
They don't get as many in the west, they get those elsewhere.
Not so. Indirect and anecdotal evidence IS evidence.
So, there's evidence...sufficient for most. Not for you..but for most.
You are looking for "hard evidence" that you can look at as "proof"...then you claim since that isn't submitted, that there is "no evidence".
Also...any group can assess the same evidence, and come to differing determinations.
For Example: Even with the SCOTUS, few decisions are unanimous, even though they are all working off the same evidence.
Then, how "The Majority" sees it, is determined to be "The Standard" everyone then goes by.
That is why "THEISM" and the concept that "GOD EXISTS" is The Standard in this world. It is based upon how The Majority determine it based upon the evidence.
Well...You don't have to "buy" it.
Since about 900AD , all model years of Earth have come with THEISM factory installed as a Standard option.
BTW...why is it "2017"? HAHAHAHA!
But, it's okay...I understand that you can't rebutt empirical facts-on-the-ground.
I still feel this thread has served its' purpose. No evidence has made its' appearance, never mind best evidence. Excuses and sticking the tongue out. That's all the response this challenge is getting.
I still feel this thread has served its' purpose. No evidence has made its' appearance, never mind best evidence. Excuses and sticking the tongue out. That's all the response this challenge is getting.
'Fraid so - as disappointing as it may be.
I've enjoyed your input though. Very thought provoking. (Couldn't rep you twice).
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