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View Poll Results: Is there any excuse or reason for not hearing "The Word"?
Yes, it could easily happen and is excusable 5 20.83%
Yes, but only in very rare and exceptional circumstances 1 4.17%
No, there is simply no excuse, "The Word" is how we will be judged 5 20.83%
The Word is not how we will be judged anyway/ or we cease to exist 13 54.17%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-14-2017, 08:55 PM
 
Location: NSW
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Just curious as to what others think of this.
This assumes that "The Word" is the only way to get to God, and through Jesus Christ.
Can somebody really not hear about "The Word" in their lifetimes?
Does that mean that all those in ancient, Pagan and indigenous cultures are doomed?
Can an atheist, who simply did not read or believe the book that was left behind by God, really be punished for that?
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:12 PM
 
Location: USA
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Just curious as to what others think of this.
This assumes that "The Word" is the only way to get to God, and through Jesus Christ.
Can somebody really not hear about "The Word" in their lifetimes?
Does that mean that all those in ancient, Pagan and indigenous cultures are doomed?
Can an atheist, who simply did not read or believe the book that was left behind by God, really be punished for that?
Numerous studies have concluded that atheists are actually more familiar with the Bible than the majority of Christians.
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Old 08-15-2017, 02:35 AM
 
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Most of man and animals are not under the covenant through Jesus Christ but under the spiritual authority of the devil and his hoards , as the devil is enemy to God and no mercy is given to the devil or demons and fallen angels which are the hoards ..... So if man and animals do not hear the Word of God , or follow the devil by default of ignoring God then their spirits will be part of the devil
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Old 08-15-2017, 03:48 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Just curious as to what others think of this.
This assumes that "The Word" is the only way to get to God, and through Jesus Christ.
Can somebody really not hear about "The Word" in their lifetimes?
Does that mean that all those in ancient, Pagan and indigenous cultures are doomed?
Can an atheist, who simply did not read or believe the book that was left behind by God, really be punished for that?

Just another reason why God's 'perfect' plan wasn't very perfect.

And forget about all those pagan and indigenous cultures. The irony is that 99% of the people for whom the plan was intended (the Jews) are doomed post Jesus' 'paying for their sins'.
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Old 08-15-2017, 04:13 AM
 
Location: NSW
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Numerous studies have concluded that atheists are actually more familiar with the Bible than the majority of Christians.
Come on, they may know the verses that contradict or that are used for apologetic debates, but they are hardly theological scholars. (and I am certainly not one either)
But I am more thinking of those who are totally ignorant of "The Word" , and see no reason to research it and/or read it , and there are plenty of them.
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Old 08-15-2017, 04:17 AM
 
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Just another reason why God's 'perfect' plan wasn't very perfect.

And forget about all those pagan and indigenous cultures. The irony is that 99% of the people for whom the plan was intended (the Jews) are doomed post Jesus' 'paying for their sins'.
Yeah and there is like a 150 year gap post-Christ that The Word was yet to be formulated either, or became readily available for the masses.
You gotta feel for those in this gap period, that are a lot of "gap years" that were still under the old covenant. and were not "born again" of the flesh and spirit. (and btw there are a large contingent of Christians today that are not this, and are cafeteria if you like)
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Old 08-15-2017, 04:29 AM
 
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Just curious as to what others think of this.
This assumes that "The Word" is the only way to get to God, and through Jesus Christ.
Can somebody really not hear about "The Word" in their lifetimes?
Does that mean that all those in ancient, Pagan and indigenous cultures are doomed?
Can an atheist, who simply did not read or believe the book that was left behind by God, really be punished for that?
The starting "if" is flawed.

What is the the "word(s)? "love compassion and understanding" or "Follow jesus or you're wrong?"

or must the words be "Thanda ububele nokuqonda", sorry, I just plugged LCU into google translate.

Can a person be punished by that god for being a loving compassionate person that understands the need to help when they can?

so, we have a line of logic that becomes flawed not only in points of facts but the links between facts are flawed. I guess the answer is "yes". I would say most can be "saved" if they do not follow that line of logic. "yes" some people, far less than the number of average people, would need it to be saved (more like they need it so they don't hurt themselves or others). Its those latter people that we need a well oiled police force for.
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Old 08-15-2017, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Just another reason why God's 'perfect' plan wasn't very perfect.
What plan? You mean to multiply?
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Derek41 View Post
Just curious as to what others think of this.
This assumes that "The Word" is the only way to get to God, and through Jesus Christ.
Can somebody really not hear about "The Word" in their lifetimes?
Does that mean that all those in ancient, Pagan and indigenous cultures are doomed?
Can an atheist, who simply did not read or believe the book that was left behind by God, really be punished for that?
Can you define your terms? What do you mean by "The Word"?
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:46 AM
 
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Numerous studies have concluded that atheists are actually more familiar with the Bible than the majority of Christians.
No doubt. And James wrote in his epistle that the demons believe in God--and they shudder.

Knowledge does not necessarily mean anything if the mind is closed and the heart is proud.
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