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Old 04-06-2018, 06:53 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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start on SOME day .. SOME day not the EXACT day name ,
unless it is a coincident that all the countries and nations started on the same day name as life started coincidently as non believers believes ,
or may be there was only one nation and then all other generated nations followed it.
I gae the reasons why people have a seven day week and days measured by the sising and setting of the sun. Thus there is no reason to suppose there was once one super -culture that taught everyone the same reckoning and in fact all the evidence, historical and archaeological sugests that there no unified cultures before around 10,000 let alone one that taught one system of reckoning to all humanity.

The Abrahamic 'Babel' story has no credibility and indded tends to refute the idea because, if all peoples were scattered and developed different languages, why didn't they develop different weeks and days? Because the sun and moon was the basis for the reckoning.

All the evidence is against your argument that weeks staring on a Friday, or Saturday or (significantly) for Judaism, on a Sunday, somehow validates the Quran claim that Allah 'gave' the day.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:02 AM
 
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Do you know what names the Africans of Southern Africa gave to mountains and water and all the animals?
Or the Koi and the San? Do you know their names for animals?
Did those Africans and Koi and San have a seven day week? Did they rest on the Sabbath or Sunday?

Do you even know why there is a Sabbath and a Sunday - the day of rest - given by god that are different days? Which day do you use?
not necessarily the Koi or southern Africa , look at France , Italy , Germany , UK .. etc.
Why do they have different language ?
there are two possibilities for this
1- Adam was giving all the language from Allah
2- Adam was giving only one language and then by time many language were diverted from the main language.
And He taught Adam all the names... The Holy Quran 2:31
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:04 AM
 
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If the seven day week is adopted, the days will always coincide with lunar phases. Since there is only one moon, the same moon for everyone, this is to be expected.

However, where in the original story of Adam and Eve is the day of creation named?
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
The best day on which the sun rises is Friday.
On it Adam was created,
on it he was admitted to Paradise
and on it he was expelled therefrom.”
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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I gae the reasons why people have a seven day week and days measured by the sising and setting of the sun. Thus there is no reason to suppose there was once one super -culture that taught everyone the same reckoning and in fact all the evidence, historical and archaeological sugests that there no unified cultures before around 10,000 let alone one that taught one system of reckoning to all humanity.

The Abrahamic 'Babel' story has no credibility and indded tends to refute the idea because, if all peoples were scattered and developed different languages, why didn't they develop different weeks and days? Because the sun and moon was the basis for the reckoning.

All the evidence is against your argument that weeks staring on a Friday, or Saturday or (significantly) for Judaism, on a Sunday, somehow validates the Quran claim that Allah 'gave' the day.
not every thing is found in history and it is impossible
The Quran gives facts about things that the others just invent theories about them.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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The first is the wrong question - it is why should different people have the same language? In fact even people who begin with the same language can two or three centuries later, have a different or changed one.

There is no need for a mythical tale about One person originating the One language everybody spoke, let alone another mythical tale to explain we we none of us speak it.

For the second, Quran quotes claiming that Friday is special even though it isn't to other people is a waste of everyone's time.
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Germany
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not necessarily the Koi or southern Africa , look at France , Italy , Germany , UK .. etc.
Why do they have different language ?
there are two possibilities for this
1- Adam was giving all the language from Allah
2- Adam was giving only one language and then by time many language were diverted from the main language.
And He taught Adam all the names... The Holy Quran 2:31
There are more than two possibilities.
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Germany
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not every thing is found in history and it is impossible
The Quran gives facts about things that the others just invent theories about them.
It also gets so much wrong. Why, it is as if someone observed some things, wrote that down, then made some things up, but got them all wrong.
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Old 04-15-2018, 07:14 PM
 
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There are more than two possibilities.
I said there are two possibilities and I have identified both of them.
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:58 AM
 
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I said there are two possibilities and I have identified both of them.
So you have tried to Fix the discussion beforehand and with two Permitted options that are both wrong.

Old muslim mate, if you were an undercover operator working to make Islam look like a bad joke, you could not be doing a better job of it.
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:08 PM
 
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So you have tried to Fix the discussion beforehand and with two Permitted options that are both wrong.
.
No
Harry Diogenes said that there are more than two possibilities and he did not identify even one .
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