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Old 01-10-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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Militant morality: Do the right thing or we will burn you at the stake.
Or destroy your business if you don't do the "right thing"?
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:13 AM
 
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A moral person is a person that understands that the universe does not revolve around their ego.
A civilized society is a society whose laws do not revolve around any one person or group of people.
The more a society treats everyone as equals the more civilized it is.
Ancient upper class society was divided into 2 groups.
Soldiers whose job it was to enforce the laws of Civility & Teachers whose job it was to teach the laws of morality.

Religion is the bastard child of both of these groups and therefore combines characteristics of both. I would describe it as militaristic morality.
As far as "militaristic morality"...that is any set rules for conduct/behavior (necessarily arbitrary and subjective) that carry some penalty or punishment for noncompliance.
It is governments (penal codes) and societies (accepted culture & tradition) in general that enforce "militaristic morality".
Claimed necrodestination punishments actually do nothing. OTOH secular society will fine, imprision, or kill you for not obeying the rules they set.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:16 AM
 
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Soldiers (police) enforce the laws of Civility & Teachers teach the laws of morality.

Religion combines them into militant morality

Militant morality: Do the right thing or we will burn you at the stake.

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A moral person is a person that understands that the universe does not revolve around their ego.
A civilized society is a society whose laws do not revolve around any one person or group of people.
The more a society treats everyone as equals the more civilized it is.



Ancient upper class society was divided into 2 groups.
Soldiers whose job it was to enforce the laws of Civility & Teachers whose job it was to teach the laws of morality.

Religion is the bastard child of both of these groups and therefore combines characteristics of both. I would describe it as militaristic morality.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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The world needs teachers and police. But it doesn't need religion.

Churches should be turned into soap factories.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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Soldiers (police) enforce the laws of Civility & Teachers teach the laws of morality.

Religion combines them into militant morality

Militant morality: Do the right thing or we will burn you at the stake.

In your lifetime...how many people where you live have been "burnt at the stake" by Religion for not "doing the right thing"?
Now compare that to secular society doling out consequences and punishments for not doing what they consider "the right thing" during that time.
You have it backwards as to who actually enforces "militaristic morality".
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:06 AM
 
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People are burned all the time. Look at all the scandals in politics
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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People are burned all the time. Look at all the scandals in politics
Again...where you are, that would all be secular in nature, not Religion doing it.
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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Only someone that doesn't live in America would think that.
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:54 AM
 
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Secular? Dude there is no law against cheating on your wife or anything like that even in America. But politicians are still scandalized by it. It is not secular. It is religious
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:33 PM
 
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Secular? Dude there is no law against cheating on your wife or anything like that even in America. But politicians are still scandalized by it. It is not secular. It is religious
It is the judgment of this society, in general...not necessarily Religious...that looks negatively toward cheating, abusing, etc.
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