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Old 03-20-2018, 11:45 AM
 
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I thought I would relay this little story as a lighter-hearted side of our spiritual practices.

As I've said on here many times, I am active in a very small Episcopal church, a community of people of different backgrounds that some might see as odd, but we see as interesting.

The priest we had for the past five years retired to Florida along with his Rottweiler, Princess, who occasionally used to attend church with his wife. Another parishioner regularly attends with Rosie, a chihuahua mix, who sits quietly in the pew or her owner's purse while she goes up to get communion. Everybody pets Rosie along the way. Sometimes Snow, a mutt, comes along with her owner.

These dogs also double as sheep, cows, and a burro at the annual children's pageant. Another parishioner makes their costumes.

As a traditional Episcopal congregation, we observe St. Francis's Day in October, and that observance includes bringing in pets of all kinds to be blessed by the priest.

We have not yet been able to find a permanent part-time priest, so we have had a couple of retired priests who have been serving on a "supply" basis. Recently we learned of another retired priest who was interested in working as supply to start and who might consider the part-time position. He attended our church on Sunday to see what we were like. No dogs were present.

During the coffee hour, he spoke with the church admin and told him that he would be happy to start next month as our supply priest, but there was one condition. His vision is impaired, so his wife has to drive him, and she will only attend a church where she can bring her dog. Would that be OK? We assured him that they would fit right in.

One day last year after a local house was found to contain 286 dogs as a result of an attempt at dog breeding gotten out of hand and the dogs were brought to several local shelters, the parish did an impromptu collection of cash and blankets and other supplies to donate to the shelter nearest our church. We see this as part of being responsible to all creation.

To those of you who attend religious services, are animals welcome along with their people? Does your church participate in any fundraisers for animal-related charity? This is the first church I have ever attended where four-legged creatures are part of the parish.

(And no, I am not ever taking my cats to church.)
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Old 03-20-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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I thought I would relay this little story as a lighter-hearted side of our spiritual practices.

As I've said on here many times, I am active in a very small Episcopal church, a community of people of different backgrounds that some might see as odd, but we see as interesting.

The priest we had for the past five years retired to Florida along with his Rottweiler, Princess, who occasionally used to attend church with his wife. Another parishioner regularly attends with Rosie, a chihuahua mix, who sits quietly in the pew or her owner's purse while she goes up to get communion. Everybody pets Rosie along the way. Sometimes Snow, a mutt, comes along with her owner.

These dogs also double as sheep, cows, and a burro at the annual children's pageant. Another parishioner makes their costumes.

As a traditional Episcopal congregation, we observe St. Francis's Day in October, and that observance includes bringing in pets of all kinds to be blessed by the priest.

We have not yet been able to find a permanent part-time priest, so we have had a couple of retired priests who have been serving on a "supply" basis. Recently we learned of another retired priest who was interested in working as supply to start and who might consider the part-time position. He attended our church on Sunday to see what we were like. No dogs were present.

During the coffee hour, he spoke with the church admin and told him that he would be happy to start next month as our supply priest, but there was one condition. His vision is impaired, so his wife has to drive him, and she will only attend a church where she can bring her dog. Would that be OK? We assured him that they would fit right in.

One day last year after a local house was found to contain 286 dogs as a result of an attempt at dog breeding gotten out of hand and the dogs were brought to several local shelters, the parish did an impromptu collection of cash and blankets and other supplies to donate to the shelter nearest our church. We see this as part of being responsible to all creation.

To those of you who attend religious services, are animals welcome along with their people? Does your church participate in any fundraisers for animal-related charity? This is the first church I have ever attended where four-legged creatures are part of the parish.

(And no, I am not ever taking my cats to church.)
Can't say that I've ever tried to take my dog into church. Not sure what would happen.

I know my pastor has a fish in a bowl on his book shelf. He's also considered getting a cat to keep in the church.
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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Service dogs and guide dogs yes. Otherwise no. A lady in israel has a guide dog with her at synagogue. The dog knows when to stand up or lie down at the right times during prayer services, "On Rosh Hashanah, she stood each time the shofar was blown."
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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Jewish law specifically addresses requirement to be kind to animals. For instance animals are not allowed to work on the Sabbath. Here is story of the cow who observed Shabbat:

There was once a Jew who owned a cow with which he plowed his field. Then it came to pass that this Jew became impoverished and was forced to sell his cow to a non-Jew.

The new owner plowed with the cow throughout the week, but when her took her out to the field on Shabbat, she kneeled under the yoke and refused to do any work. He hit her with his whip, but she would not budge from her place.

So he came back to the Jew and said to him, "Take back your cow! All week I worked with her, but today I took her out to the field and she refuses to do anything... "

The Jew said to the cow's purchaser: "Come with me, and I will get her to plow." When they arrived to the field the cow lay, the Jew spoke into her ear. "Oh Cow, Cow! When you were in my domain, you rested on Shabbat. But now that my sins have caused me to sell you to this gentile, please, stand up and do the will of your master!"

Immediately the cow stood, prepared to work. Said the gentile to the Jew: "I'm not letting you go until you tell me what you did and what you said to her. Have you bewitched her?" The Jew told him what he said to the cow.

When this man heard this, he was shaken and amazed. He said to himself: "If this creature, which has neither language or intelligence, recognizes her Creator, should not I, whom G‑d created in His image and likeness and imbued me with intelligence and understanding?"

So he went and converted to Judaism and merited to study Torah. He became known as Yochanan ben Torta ("Yochanan son of the Cow")
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Old 03-20-2018, 06:40 PM
 
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^Loved that story, Tzaph!
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:46 AM
 
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Seen a bat in the belfries at this one tall church
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Old 03-22-2018, 02:26 AM
 
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I am not one, however I guess the people who believe that animals cannot go to Heaven because they dont have souls are keeping quiet about this, but they are out there... or so I have heard.
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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Seen a bat in the belfries at this one tall church
I attended a church where they had bats. The sanctuary was pretty big...could seat 450-500 with a balcony, so it was tall, as well. I was there for a meeting late, and when they turned off the lights, we saw bats flying around in the sanctuary. They didn't bother anyone.
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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I attended a church where they had bats. The sanctuary was pretty big...could seat 450-500 with a balcony, so it was tall, as well. I was there for a meeting late, and when they turned off the lights, we saw bats flying around in the sanctuary. They didn't bother anyone.
That would be pretty cool. I like bats.
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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Since I attend the Outside Church of Mother Nature, critters are integral members of the congregation.
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