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Once again, you have no support for your statement. You just expect everyone to take it on faith. "I said it, so it must be true." No, I don't have to believe you.
Another invention.
"They have a negative attitude towards anything good happening. Good things make them upset." <- this is stupid bovine manure. I love it when good things happen. Most people do, regardless of their beliefs about religion.
Keep digging, you are doing great work for theism.
Once again, you have no support for your statement. You just expect everyone to take it on faith. "I said it, so it must be true." No, I don't have to believe you.
You have this completely backwards, as usual.
YOU claimed atheists are upset when good things happen. YOU offered no support. And a handful of atheists are going to take your word for it, because you say so?
I don't believe that. For all we know animals might believe in God in their own way.
thats not what I asked you. what you believe in may or may not line up with what we know about the universe.
Would it be better to line you what you think about god to what we know about the universe or would you prefer to line it up with what you believe in only?
the question is.
What would you think/say if the ants thought you were god?
or
what would you think if a cell (or even a protein like f0 or f1) thought you were a god?
Yes. That is exactly the point of that little tale; anything good is to be credited to God. Even if it's as mundane as a boat-rescue or doctors battling for 20 hours to save a crash victim. Ooooh Noooh...it was the prayers of the relatives in the next room that did it. (1)
It's part of the Big Lie, Huge Scam, or Monumental Con. Get everyone to pray all the time, and anything Good that happens, Proof of prayer. It works even if nobody was praying like one miner surviving out of 30, a cross surviving in a gutted cathedral, or even a 'plane that got down in one piece. That's still a miracle.
Mind, We do the same with 9/11, Johnny Chau and the Tsunami. Not that we are happy with those deaths, any more than we are sad that those people were rescued. But it is irritating when good luck, bad luck and no luck is all used as 'evidence' for God.
(1) there's a formula, which I'd give you, were it not for the fact that I cannot do anything with numbers that requires more than my fingers. But some mathematicule genius can do it for me. Probability of a result, plus prolonged praying for a result plus proclivity for explaining away lack of a result = result. The Result being Pray for a helicopter- don't pray for wings.
The formula explains the format of the parable of prayer. Wait for a natural result, and praise God if you get it eventually, proof of God if you get it straight away and Praise God anyway if you don't. God knows best after all.
I could write a dissertation on endless self justification (because justification of the believers' rightness is what this is all about- but Justification of the religion), but as the atheist schoolmarm said - "You get the idea".
Prayer is just a verbal expression of hope...and if things do go that way, then the hopes were realized.
That many implore "God" in their prayers is just using a metaphorical representation of that, "hope that things go as preferred". Others may be praying for the exact opposite outcome that some are praying for.
It is a perfectly normal thing (express hope that a preferred outcome might occur) to do...and one would have to be quite the miserable person to be bothered by it.
Prayer is just a verbal expression of hope...and if things do go that way, then the hopes were realized.
That many implore "God" in their prayers is just using a metaphorical representation of that, "hope that things go as preferred". Others may be praying for the exact opposite outcome that some are praying for.
It is a perfectly normal thing (express hope that a preferred outcome might occur) to do...and one would have to be quite the miserable person to be bothered by it.
Ain't that the truth! especially knowing you're going to die anyway. I can somewhat understand James Dean wanting to leave behind a good looking corpse but why would anyone want to leave behind their legacy of nihilism!?
Once again, you have no support for your statement. You just expect everyone to take it on faith. "I said it, so it must be true." No, I don't have to believe you.
Ah, so when someone believes something on faith, no one else needs to believe them.
Interesting that you would say that.
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