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There's nothing more I can add to this thread. I am defined by my encounters with God. That is all.
What a terrible shame.
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Originally Posted by Rachel NewYork
Thank you, Phetaroi. I guess that quote exemplifies a major way in which my religion defines me.
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Here you go. I've made a meme for you.
Couldn't agree more. As self -appointed spokesperson for all the brotherhood of international atheism ..eh wot...all right sisterhood too - I would wish to put on record our block support for this expression of united peoples' solidarity.
Aside all kidding. secular humanism (often mistaken for atheism, which it isn't) is a system or method that naturally incorporates all religions or none on a basis of 'This is the religion I do and does not seek to ..' I'm finding it hard to say just what.. It's like not pushing to dominate or say why it's the only true view even if they think it is, but it's kept out of the social matrix and kept as a separate debate if there has to be one.
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Originally Posted by ocean777
So it's correct to protect all religions but it's also correct to attack the ones you don't agree with & call them "delusions". Okay got it. Cool. Thanks a lot
I have to agree (and with you I don't, very much ) that this is a point and why trying to find the right words made me scratch my head, amongst other things.
Of course there is going to be dispute and disagreement. That's how we learn and move forwards. But how do we stop that tearing society apart? There has to be a system of having people free to have their own views and freedom to argue them (aside from groups that have legal protection. (Against anti -Semitism for one) but those disagreements and disputes are kept out of society and are not allowed to infringe on others.
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So it's correct to protect all religions but it's also correct to attack the ones you don't agree with & call them "delusions". Okay got it. Cool. Thanks a lot
If you see things or hear things, I think those are called hallucinations, not delusions, but not when it comes to religion. With religion, seeing god or hearing him is considered real by religious people. I think that as long as it doesn't impact your ability to form relationships with others, then it is not considered a problem. Once your beliefs start interfering with other people's lives, they start calling you things like delusional and that you are having hallucinations. In other words, they respond negatively.
I know that Jesus gives people strength when he says to expect people to mock you. I would be concerned if I had bad interactions with others.
Well God openly manifested here at my house yesterday. So God has defined me as someone He can openly manifest physically to. I think that is because I generally help people & try to be good to my neighbour like Jesus told people to do. Jesus says in The Bible that He will manifest to you & that is a fact. He does manifest & He is absolutely awesome!!!!!!!
So God has defined me as a person He can manifest to.
And God is the only Good Person There Is Apparently. So I don't care how anyone else defines me.
This thread is not about how others might define you but how you define yourself, but clearly God sees something about you others might not. Thanks for sharing and for being very consistent about your experiences with God...
It amazes me that god manifests himself at your house day after day, yet so many millions of other people who need a visit from god, and pray for such a visit, are ignored.
I would say that my sense of morality defines me more than any of the others. From that, my political views, my relationship to my family, my work ethic, and several other things are derived.
"Sense of morality."
Good one that I'd include top of my list too while also making clear my sense of morality is no way dependent on religious guidance but simple distinction between right from wrong based on what common sense my life experience has taught me.
Regarding the management of differences between people, this quote is what resonates with me:
"As Jews, we know that true religious freedom is a shield to protect all religions and never a sword to discriminate. It often feels like religion is used to discriminate -- and that is not something we stand for, regardless of the issue." -- Sheila Katz, president of the National Counsel of Jewish Women
Thank you. Though it's hard not to like this quote, the reality is the sword is forever swinging in all directions, and no doubt "actions speak louder than words" no matter who says what. That tends to be the rub and/or another quote always worth keeping in mind...
If you see things or hear things, I think those are called hallucinations, not delusions, but not when it comes to religion. With religion, seeing god or hearing him is considered real by religious people. I think that as long as it doesn't impact your ability to form relationships with others, then it is not considered a problem. Once your beliefs start interfering with other people's lives, they start calling you things like delusional and that you are having hallucinations. In other words, they respond negatively.
I know that Jesus gives people strength when he says to expect people to mock you. I would be concerned if I had bad interactions with others.
Hmm. Religion vs. spirituality. Don't have the first, but have the second. Regardless, it exists on its own, its own level, etc. It has no connection with those outward activities. Why drag down something higher and otherworldly with the human, the temporary, and the mundane of everyday life? That would just cheapen it. But then again, many are drawn to religion (instead of spirituality), with it's heavy-handed human manipulation. The shiny brass-covered plastic is often more tempting than the genuine gold.
Hmm. Religion vs. spirituality. Don't have the first, but have the second. Regardless, it exists on its own, its own level, etc. It has no connection with those outward activities. Why drag down something higher and otherworldly with the human, the temporary, and the mundane of everyday life? That would just cheapen it. But then again, many are drawn to religion (instead of spirituality), with it's heavy-handed human manipulation. The shiny brass-covered plastic is often more tempting than the genuine gold.
I know many people who seem content to distinguish between them being spiritual and not religious, but I always cringe just a bit with the spiritual non-religious folks because where would religion be without spirituality? Religion is simply a bit better formalized and organized and ultimately born of spirituality before it became formalized and organized.
For me anyway, it's something like contributing to a cause but not wanting to be a part of the march...
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There's nothing more I can add to this thread. I am defined by my encounters with God. That is all.
I would wish to put on record our block support for this expression of united peoples' solidarity.
) that this is a point and why trying to find the right words made me scratch my head, amongst other things.
