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Old 01-16-2021, 10:30 PM
 
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I have been asked repeatedly to reveal what I am talking about when I say our consciousness and our Reality resides in a consciousness field we call the spacetime field and I call it God. The consciousness portion of God resides in over 95+% of our universe, the unmeasurable dark energy and dark matter. Everything else is what I would consider being God's "physical body." To make this remotely comprehensible requires that you understand that our consciousness does not reside in our physical body or brain. I have been asked to go to the science forum to explain it but that venue does not reach the audience I am most interested in reaching.

I have wracked my brain to come up with a simplified explanation of what is a very complex set of phenomena requiring a significant understanding of some rather serious science on the fringes of known science. Most of my efforts toward introducing some of them have been largely unsuccessful here so I am not sanguine that this will be any more successful. The efforts of Penrose et al. and the Cold Atom Laboratory are two of the more central inspirations for my views, but there are numerous others.

Essentially, our consciousness forms in quantum time at the quantum level as the product of resonant synaptic firings by the brain and that is why it cannot reside in our body or brain. It is like the flames of a fire that transform the combustibles that produce them to spread out and permeate the universe except these "flames of consciousness" are our composite Self. It is the resonant composite field that does all the thinking, not the individual firings that comprise it but it cannot be measured as a composite. That means it exists in a single quantum state in the spacetime field itself (in dark energy form?) located in the area of our Reality we call the vacuum of space also known by our ancestors as "Heaven." (The vacuum of space is the only known environment cold enough and undifferentiated enough to host consciousness as a BEC.)

Our physical experience of our consciousness is a confusing delayed playback of its actual quantum creation using the recordings of it in the brain. As long as we are alive physically, our brain acts as the producer and transceiver for our true Self that exists in a permanent quantum state. Through our brain, our Self influences its own further creation and our delayed experiencing of our life in concert with the nonthinking limbic system of the brain (reptilian brain) that is the seat of all our emotions and drives.

This stereophonic duo is responsible for all the conflicts between our spiritual aspirations and our animal drives that have long been the focus of religion and spirituality. The fact that we arrive in this world with a fully functioning reptilian brain and animal drives but the mere seed of a Spirit (conscious Self) accounts for all the vicissitudes of growing to spiritual adulthood.

For the major portion of our early development, the animal drives are dominant and our developing conscious Self (Spirit) has to learn to control them. There is no internal teacher for our animal drives. They are indiscriminate - no thought processes,- so all the learning must come from the external environment, experiences, parents, teachers, peers, religion, spirituality, philosophy, science, etc.

More later. Chew on this for a while.
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Old 01-17-2021, 05:11 AM
 
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Ok. a dedicated Mystic -synthesis thread . Feel free to ask any questions you like about the above extraordinarily vague quantum -woo as gaps for god, good folks. I'm off to My dedicated thread.
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Old 01-17-2021, 06:03 AM
 
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I have been asked repeatedly to reveal what I am talking about when I say our consciousness and our Reality resides in a consciousness field we call the spacetime field and I call it God. The consciousness portion of God resides in over 95+% of our universe, the unmeasurable dark energy and dark matter. Everything else is what I would consider being God's "physical body." To make this remotely comprehensible requires that you understand that our consciousness does not reside in our physical body or brain. I have been asked to go to the science forum to explain it but that venue does not reach the audience I am most interested in reaching.

I have wracked my brain to come up with a simplified explanation of what is a very complex set of phenomena requiring a significant understanding of some rather serious science on the fringes of known science. Most of my efforts toward introducing some of them have been largely unsuccessful here so I am not sanguine that this will be any more successful. The efforts of Penrose et al. and the Cold Atom Laboratory are two of the more central inspirations for my views, but there are numerous others.

Essentially, our consciousness forms in quantum time at the quantum level as the product of resonant synaptic firings by the brain and that is why it cannot reside in our body or brain. It is like the flames of a fire that transform the combustibles that produce them to spread out and permeate the universe except these "flames of consciousness" are our composite Self. It is the resonant composite field that does all the thinking, not the individual firings that comprise it but it cannot be measured as a composite. That means it exists in a single quantum state in the spacetime field itself (in dark energy form?) located in the area of our Reality we call the vacuum of space also known by our ancestors as "Heaven." (The vacuum of space is the only known environment cold enough and undifferentiated enough to host consciousness as a BEC.)

Our physical experience of our consciousness is a confusing delayed playback of its actual quantum creation using the recordings of it in the brain. As long as we are alive physically, our brain acts as the producer and transceiver for our true Self that exists in a permanent quantum state. Through our brain, our Self influences its own further creation and our delayed experiencing of our life in concert with the nonthinking limbic system of the brain (reptilian brain) that is the seat of all our emotions and drives.

This stereophonic duo is responsible for all the conflicts between our spiritual aspirations and our animal drives that have long been the focus of religion and spirituality. The fact that we arrive in this world with a fully functioning reptilian brain and animal drives but the mere seed of a Spirit (conscious Self) accounts for all the vicissitudes of growing to spiritual adulthood.

For the major portion of our early development, the animal drives are dominant and our developing conscious Self (Spirit) has to learn to control them. There is no internal teacher for our animal drives. They are indiscriminate - no thought processes,- so all the learning must come from the external environment, experiences, parents, teachers, peers, religion, spirituality, philosophy, science, etc.

More later. Chew on this for a while.
Are we allowed to answer mystic? I am under strict observation not to talk science. Basically I unable/can't question/support you.

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Old 01-17-2021, 06:10 AM
 
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Ok. a dedicated Mystic -synthesis thread . Feel free to ask any questions you like about the above extraordinarily vague quantum -woo as gaps for god, good folks. I'm off to My dedicated thread.
"quantum woo" is not evidence. In the absent of evidence on your part and the strength of evidence on his part, we are forced to say his claim is more reliable than than your non claim about the claim.

"vague", that is a given. based on what we do not know we are forced into vague. But he has a mechanism and predictions. You counter claim is not a claim, has zero mechanism, and makes zero predictions. So again, using basic commonsense, we are forced into a corner of mystic's claim is more reliable than trans claim.

Now, I am in a position to question his claim and actually offer a counter position (past stating adolescents non claims like "quantum woo"). But, I can't. That alone tells how you like playing a game with a stacked deck.
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Old 01-17-2021, 07:23 AM
 
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No one really has a clue. Not sure he does, either, to be honest.
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Old 01-17-2021, 07:27 AM
 
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I have been asked repeatedly to reveal what I am talking about when I say our consciousness and our Reality resides in a consciousness field we call the spacetime field and I call it God. The consciousness portion of God resides in over 95+% of our universe, the unmeasurable dark energy and dark matter. Everything else is what I would consider being God's "physical body." To make this remotely comprehensible requires that you understand that our consciousness does not reside in our physical body or brain. I have been asked to go to the science forum to explain it but that venue does not reach the audience I am most interested in reaching.

I have wracked my brain to come up with a simplified explanation of what is a very complex set of phenomena requiring a significant understanding of some rather serious science on the fringes of known science. Most of my efforts toward introducing some of them have been largely unsuccessful here so I am not sanguine that this will be any more successful. The efforts of Penrose et al. and the Cold Atom Laboratory are two of the more central inspirations for my views, but there are numerous others.

Essentially, our consciousness forms in quantum time at the quantum level as the product of resonant synaptic firings by the brain and that is why it cannot reside in our body or brain. It is like the flames of a fire that transform the combustibles that produce them to spread out and permeate the universe except these "flames of consciousness" are our composite Self. It is the resonant composite field that does all the thinking, not the individual firings that comprise it but it cannot be measured as a composite. That means it exists in a single quantum state in the spacetime field itself (in dark energy form?) located in the area of our Reality we call the vacuum of space also known by our ancestors as "Heaven." (The vacuum of space is the only known environment cold enough and undifferentiated enough to host consciousness as a BEC.)

Our physical experience of our consciousness is a confusing delayed playback of its actual quantum creation using the recordings of it in the brain. As long as we are alive physically, our brain acts as the producer and transceiver for our true Self that exists in a permanent quantum state. Through our brain, our Self influences its own further creation and our delayed experiencing of our life in concert with the nonthinking limbic system of the brain (reptilian brain) that is the seat of all our emotions and drives.

This stereophonic duo is responsible for all the conflicts between our spiritual aspirations and our animal drives that have long been the focus of religion and spirituality. The fact that we arrive in this world with a fully functioning reptilian brain and animal drives but the mere seed of a Spirit (conscious Self) accounts for all the vicissitudes of growing to spiritual adulthood.

For the major portion of our early development, the animal drives are dominant and our developing conscious Self (Spirit) has to learn to control them. There is no internal teacher for our animal drives. They are indiscriminate - no thought processes,- so all the learning must come from the external environment, experiences, parents, teachers, peers, religion, spirituality, philosophy, science, etc.

More later. Chew on this for a while.
how did various sources of wisdom you enumerate get their moral compass from whom we are supposed to learn to control our animal instincts? Tautology a bit?
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:01 AM
 
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Are we allowed to answer mystic? I am under strict observation not to talk science. Basically I unable/can't question/support you.
Don't be hypocritical. If he can post it, you can question it. You can even say that quantum -woo plus what you call 'common sense' (plus numbers of people who believe in Something More' os good evidence for a god.
Just stay off claiming the universe is alive or trying to rewrite science and you'll be ok in questioning. I'd also advise not reciting a selection of terms I've used and then claiming it proves me a fundy of some kind.
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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Don't be hypocritical. If he can post it, you can question it. You can even say that quantum -woo plus what you call 'common sense' (plus numbers of people who believe in Something More' os good evidence for a god.
Just stay off claiming the universe is alive or trying to rewrite science and you'll be ok in questioning. I'd also advise not reciting a selection of terms I've used and then claiming it proves me a fundy of some kind.
Right now you have me at an disadvantage ...

Anytime you want to list our beliefs side by side and the reasons we are weighting the observations the way we do ... Lets do it. We will see who is actually doing what. Please request that some of my hurtles are removed please, so I am on an equal playing so we can do this fairly. I would appreciate that.
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:13 AM
 
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Don't be hypocritical. If he can post it, you can question it. You can even say that quantum -woo plus what you call 'common sense' (plus numbers of people who believe in Something More' os good evidence for a god.
Just stay off claiming the universe is alive or trying to rewrite science and you'll be ok in questioning. I'd also advise not reciting a selection of terms I've used and then claiming it proves me a fundy of some kind.
Are you some kind of quasi moderator for CD? I dpnt see your name on the list and yet you act as if you wrote the rules of engagement for the forum. Did you?
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:19 AM
 
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Anyone can post what they think is good advice to anyone who asks about what is acceptable or not. Saves mods doing it.
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