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I am not familiar with Ayn Rand so I am glad you posted this. I have come to accept that I am selfish, but it doesn't leave me in despair or in need to take away my selfishness. I have come to understand selfishness as your bolded sentence.
It is in my interest to get along with others. It is in my interest to not pollute the Earth or my body.
There is nothing wrong with that interpretation of self-interest, if that is your thing. Spirituality is about the opposite of focusing on the material self, it is about the understanding of the inner self. Thus the two diverge, never to meet. The path spirituality is about simplifying life, owning less, needing less. Unabashed capitalism is the opposite. That is not to say anything about character, or good or bad way of being. They are opposite.
That is all.
And one evolves out of self-centeredness into spirit-centeredness. Never the other way.
There is nothing wrong with that interpretation of self-interest, if that is your thing. Spirituality is about the opposite of focusing on the material self, it is about the understanding of the inner self. Thus the two diverge, never to meet. The path spirituality is about simplifying life, owning less, needing less. Unabashed capitalism is the opposite. That is not to say anything about character, or good or bad way of being. They are opposite.
That is all.
And one evolves out of self-centeredness into spirit-centeredness. Never the other way.
Spirituality is the opposite of unabashed capitalism. Most people I know are between those two on a continuum. Sure, some lean more towards the spiritual side and some more toward the capitalism side. I don't know anybody at the extreme ends.
That's a false comparison to me. Capitalism is to socialism. Unabashed can describe them both.
Spiritualism is to, well, I don't know, maybe "literal"? Or "worldly"? like some people are fundamentally tied to the literal definition of atheism and others are not? But I don't know. Same goes for theism.
Spirituality is the opposite of unabashed capitalism. Most people I know are between those two on a continuum. Sure, some lean more towards the spiritual side and some more toward the capitalism side. I don't know anybody at the extreme ends.
That is correct. Where you are in the spectrum determine how you understand, and accept, spirituality and its importance for a heathy existence. Or hold it as some kind of foolishness or fear.
That's a false comparison to me. Capitalism is to socialism. Unabashed can describe them both.
Spiritualism is to, well, I don't know, maybe "literal"? Or "worldly"? like some people are fundamentally tied to the literal definition of atheism and others are not? But I don't know. Same goes for theism.
Capitalism is a religion. Its deity is limitless acquisition at all cost. Hell is poverty.
And what did Jesus say about the poor? What do YOU think it means?
Spirituality is about something more than the material world. Greed to the max is all about the material world.
Capitalism is a religion. Its deity is limitless acquisition at all cost. Hell is poverty.
And what did Jesus say about the poor? What do YOU think it means?
Spirituality is about something more than the material world. Greed to the max is all about the material world.
If thats what you want, but don't forget to put socialism in with it. I get some people can treat them like a religion but I don't think they really are.
If thats what you want, but don't forget to put socialism in with it. I get some people can treat them like a religion but I don't think they really are.
Ayn Rand and her followers are all about free capitalism. That is what this thread is about how the two positions have no common ground.
That's a false comparison to me. Capitalism is to socialism. Unabashed can describe them both.
Spiritualism is to, well, I don't know, maybe "literal"? Or "worldly"? like some people are fundamentally tied to the literal definition of atheism and others are not? But I don't know. Same goes for theism.
I guess one can see it that way. But the analogy won't work once it is accepted that words have both denotation and connotation. I wouldn't call denotation a literal meaning, and I tend to refer to a word's denotation when others can't agree on what a word means.
Maybe the comparison should be spiritualism to materialism and a person can move between those two. Maybe they bought too many goods and realize that it can't bring them happiness.
But the focus is self-centeredness which means that only one opinion matters.
Spirituality is the opposite of unabashed capitalism.
I am not sure if I agree.
Capitalism is an economic system with a free market and the means of production and distributing goods privately owned. Spiritualism is a very diverse mindset that can be religious, but doesn't have to be.
I think one can be spiritual and a capitalist and one can lack a significant spiritual side and be a capitalist.
In fact, I think some churches are a bit too capitalistic, looking to make too much of a profit for their leaders or founders and build palaces to worship in when a simple structure would suffice, but that doesn't mean that they don't have a sincere spiritual component to them.
Capitalism is an economic system with a free market and the means of production and distributing goods privately owned. Spiritualism is a very diverse mindset that can be religious, but doesn't have to be.
I think one can be spiritual and a capitalist and one can lack a significant spiritual side and be a capitalist.
In fact, I think some churches are a bit too capitalistic, looking to make too much of a profit for their leaders or founders and build palaces to worship in when a simple structure would suffice, but that doesn't mean that they don't have a sincere spiritual component to them.
Correct as usual.
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