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Old 05-27-2021, 06:39 PM
 
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Religion must not be very convincing. Are the majority of American just now realizing it’s just a fairy tale?

In 2020, 47% of U.S. adults belonged to a church, synagogue or mosque
Down more than 20 points from turn of the century
Change primarily due to rise in Americans with no religious preference


https://news.gallup.com/poll/341963/...irst-time.aspx
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Old 05-27-2021, 06:48 PM
 
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Religion must not be very convincing. Are the majority of American just now realizing it’s just a fairy tale?

In 2020, 47% of U.S. adults belonged to a church, synagogue or mosque
Down more than 20 points from turn of the century
Change primarily due to rise in Americans with no religious preference


https://news.gallup.com/poll/341963/...irst-time.aspx

From the very link posted in OP, Gallup in 2021 reports, "The U.S. remains a religious nation, with more than seven in 10 affiliating with some type of organized religion. "
"Church membership" [47%] is not an indicator of association with a religion [over 70%].
"Church membership" is also not an indicator of belief.

A 2013 poll by UPI/Harris showed that three-quarters of U.S. adults, that is 75% believe in God
A 2017 poll by Gallup showed for the US 87% said yes they believe in God.
A 2017 Pew poll shows in the US 80% said yes they believe in God.

And even among the non-affiliated in the USA (those who do not identify with a specific religion) Pew reports in 2018: Belief in a deity is common even among the religiously unaffiliated – a group composed of those who identify themselves, religiously, as atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular,” and sometimes referred to as religious “nones.” Indeed, nearly three-quarters of religious “nones” (72%) believe in a deity or higher power

Breakdown of the "nones" shows this regarding their belief in deity, for those who describe themselves as
"atheist" 18% believe in a higher power or spiritual force
"agnostic" 65% believe in a higher power, spiritual force or God
and "no specific religion" 88% believe in God, higher power, or spiritual force.


https://www.pewforum.org/2018/04/25/...-do-they-mean/

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Old 05-27-2021, 07:09 PM
 
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From the link posted in OP:

"The U.S. remains a religious nation, with more than seven in 10 affiliating with some type of organized religion. "
I have asked this question numerous times lately: but what does that mean?

I know people -- both christians and Buddhists -- who will tell you (if you ask) that they are christian or Buddhist...but they do virtually nothing about that label. For them it has become a label, and little more.
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Old 05-27-2021, 07:29 PM
 
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From the link posted in OP:

"The U.S. remains a religious nation, with more than seven in 10 affiliating with some type of organized religion. "
Church membership is not a measure of belief.
Church membership is also not an indicator of association with a religion.

A 2013 poll by UPI/Harris showed that three-quarters of U.S. adults that is 75% believe in God
A 2017 poll by Gallup showed for the US 87% said yes they believe in God.
A 2017 Pew poll shows in the US 80% said yes they believe in God.

And even among the non-affiliated in the USA (those who do not identify with a specific religion) Pew reports in 2018: Belief in a deity is common even among the religiously unaffiliated – a group composed of those who identify themselves, religiously, as atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular,” and sometimes referred to as religious “nones.” Indeed, nearly three-quarters of religious “nones” (72%) believe in a deity or higher power

Breakdown of the "nones" shows this regarding their belief in deity, for those who describe themselves as
"atheist" 18% believe in a higher power or spiritual force
"agnostic" 65% believe in a higher power, spiritual force or God
and "no specific religion" 88% believe in God, higher power, or spiritual force.


https://www.pewforum.org/2018/04/25/...-do-they-mean/
Believing in God and believing in fairy tale religious beliefs are two completely different things.
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Old 05-27-2021, 07:37 PM
 
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Believing in God and believing in fairy tale religious beliefs are two completely different things.
Over 70% of Americans identify with organized religion.
From the very link you posted in the OP: ""The U.S. remains a religious nation, with more than seven in 10 affiliating with some type of organized religion. "
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Old 05-27-2021, 07:52 PM
 
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As I noted in another thread when these same data were cited, much depends on how the questions are asked (in this or any other survey). 87% may say yes if simply asked "Do you believe in God?".... but the percentage drops considerably (to 64%) if you probe whether they are actually convinced that God exists. One interpretation being that nearly a quarter of people believe in something they recognize might not be real.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/268205/...lieve-god.aspx

For me, the most interesting part of the results in OP, apart from the arbitrary threshold (50% majority) being breached, is the breakdown by age group. In the most recent period, church membership drops from 66% in those born before 1946, to 58% for Boomers, to 50% for Gen X, to 36% for Millennials. The trends over the 80 years Gallup has been tracking are unmistakable, and all signs point to that continuing with successive generations.
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Old 05-27-2021, 08:11 PM
 
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Pew report in 2014 on Importance of religion in one's life

Data shows that 77% of adults say religion is important in their life.
That 77% = 53% say religion is "very important in their life" and 24% say religion is "somewhat important" in their life.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-l...-in-ones-life/
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Old 05-27-2021, 08:31 PM
 
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Over 70% of Americans identify with organized religion.
From the very link you posted in the OP: ""The U.S. remains a religious nation, with more than seven in 10 affiliating with some type of organized religion. "
"identify with" is such a weak descriptor.
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Old 05-27-2021, 08:47 PM
 
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Over 70% of Americans identify with organized religion.
From the very link you posted in the OP: ""The U.S. remains a religious nation, with more than seven in 10 affiliating with some type of organized religion. "
It bothers them so much that the vast majority of people are Religious/Theist/Spiritual...that they actually post & cheer a poll that shows some downturn in church attendance.
They post and cheer on a internet forum, the possibility that there is less of a participation & interest in the title subject of the forum. How miserable can ya get?!!
Your noted data has them all tweaked out!
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Old 05-27-2021, 08:53 PM
 
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"identify with" is such a weak descriptor.
Well then, it will make it easier for the Buttercups to suck up that data showing 70% embrace a organized Religious Theology.
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