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Old 07-01-2022, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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That'd be pure insanity, and a rejection of most of what America is founded on.

No f@*&^# thanks.
Do you have anything specific you'd like to offer?
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Old 07-01-2022, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Do you have anything specific you'd like to offer?
It's not worth my time to elaborate on. I couldn't possibly sum it up in the minute I might be able to devote to it, just like this. Try not to be so innocent and blind though.
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Old 07-01-2022, 02:18 PM
 
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US Constitution is scrapped. As for what replaces it, well that's what I want to find out from you!
But you are talking about a Catholic monarch for the USA not including Canada and Mexico I believe.

Well the most obvious changes would be no abortions, no birth control and no SSM.

But for the most part the rights of non Catholics would be at the whim of the Monarch. So home in your country is freedom of speech and religion, the Supreme Court and arts and culture would also be under the whims of that Monarch.
Or of course you could get a Catholic Monarch who thought more like our devout Catholic PM when he supported SSM and stated that human rights are more important than religious rights in 2005 and you will be the one disappointed.

I do remember the concern Protestants had about electing a Catholic President in,1960 so maybe your no revolution is also unlikely


And then you never have reasons you might want a Catholic Monarch and a new Constitution on your country. But please leave out Canada and Mexico is your thought experiment.
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Old 07-01-2022, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Catholic kings have generally not been a good thing for the Jews living under their rule.
I'd probably be able to convince my wife to make aliyah.
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Old 07-01-2022, 02:55 PM
 
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Personally, from what exist so far, I am proponent of monarchy. Absolute monarchy to that.
But. Not catholic or any other religious one, as that always ends in slaughterhouse.
Enlightened monarchy. When enlightened monarch rules self governing constituents.
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Old 07-01-2022, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Catholic kings have generally not been a good thing for the Jews living under their rule.
I'd probably be able to convince my wife to make aliyah.
What do you anticipate this American Catholic monarch would do that would impact your way of life?
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Old 07-01-2022, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What do you anticipate this American Catholic monarch would do that would impact your way of life?
Really? You've never heard of pogroms, forced exiles, the confiscation of Jewish property and wealth?

Hell, maybe your king could decide to raise a Crusade to "reclaim" Dearborn, MI from the Muslims and they could rape, pillage, and slaughter all the Jewish and Muslim communities along the way. Catholic kings have historically enjoyed doing things like that.
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Old 07-01-2022, 03:07 PM
 
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What do you anticipate this American Catholic monarch would do that would impact your way of life?
A Catholic bmonarch in the past have Jews a choice of leave convert it die. I think having to make that kind of choice would make a big impact on a person's life. That was in Spain and in France the king had Protestants killed.


Not saying that is what will happen but cannot day it won't. There are reasons we do not have absolute Monarchs much anymore.

What do you expect to gain by others taking that risk? It is your thought experiment so what are your thoughts on why it might be a good thing to have a Catholic monarch and new Constitution?
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Old 07-01-2022, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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It is your thought experiment so what are your thoughts on why it might be a good thing to have a Catholic monarch and new Constitution?
Thanks for sharing what you have so far. I'm not interested in sharing my thoughts in this thread, I just want to hear specifically why people are averse to the idea.
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Old 07-01-2022, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Really? You've never heard of pogroms, forced exiles, the confiscation of Jewish property and wealth?

Hell, maybe your king could decide to raise a Crusade to "reclaim" Dearborn, MI from the Muslims and they could rape, pillage, and slaughter all the Jewish and Muslim communities along the way. Catholic kings have historically enjoyed doing things like that.
So you would anticipate these things happening to Jews (pogroms, exiles, property confiscation, crusades)?

Thank you for sharing.
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