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I think that if there is an omnipotent deity that wants us to worship him that he would know how to interact with each individual person's unique mindset. I'm sorry, thousands of years old books written in cryptic format just don't settle it for me.
Not only that, but I also feel that the evidence to support not only a deity but a specific deity should be so well contrived and obvious that absolutely no one could deny it. There are so many things that just about anyone in the world can agree on. I would say that from anywhere in the world, just about everyone would agree the sun is hot, the sky is blue, and ice is cold. There is very little bickering over this because the evidence is so strong supporting these notions that you would have to be an absolute moron to disagree. Yet, the pages of history turn red with the amount of blood spilled simply over people disagreeing about whose God is the right one. That, in my opinion, is the very basis of why religion has such a problem - because so many people believe it but the evidence is lacking; hence the interjection of the word "faith." It's not based on evidence.
So, my stance is that if I'm to believe in such a thing as God there should be a means of empirically as well as scientifically testable evidence to support those ideas. That's how I want a God to interact with me. I want it very clear cut. That is, after all, the way he allegedly "made me".
I'm not going to go out of my way looking for images in toast, neat little events in my life that happen in a timely fashion or pondering over why my ailments were cured and call that "God". I'm not going to sit in my bed at night, read the Bible and pray that God reveal himself to me. Because even if I did feel something, how would I know which God it was? It seems to me like a trickery of the mind. I am a firm believer that you could find anything you were looking for if you put your mind to it. I could probably read The Hobbit and pray to the ghost of J.R.R. Tolkien to reveal himself to me and if I really wanted it to happen I could make an association of something in his books as well as my life as being "proof enough for me".
So, what evidence, act, or proof should a God provide? Proof so clear that not only would it extinguish all arguments about whether or not God exists but also extinguish any argument about which God exists. As far as what that is. I'll let him figure it out. That's apparently what he's so good at.
P.S. - Merely inserting something such as "DNA", "Computers", or "Nuclear Missiles" in one of his ancient texts would have been a good start. Would it have been so hard to divinely inspire one of the authors to just mention DNA for one quick second? That would have really been a good start.
I think that if there is an omnipotent deity that wants us to worship him that he would know how to interact with each individual person's unique mindset. I'm sorry, thousands of years old books written in cryptic format just don't settle it for me.
Not only that, but I also feel that the evidence to support not only a deity but a specific deity should be so well contrived and obvious that absolutely no one could deny it. There are so many things that just about anyone in the world can agree on. I would say that from anywhere in the world, just about everyone would agree the sun is hot, the sky is blue, and ice is cold. There is very little bickering over this because the evidence is so strong supporting these notions that you would have to be an absolute moron to disagree. Yet, the pages of history turn red with the amount of blood spilled simply over people disagreeing about whose God is the right one. That, in my opinion, is the very basis of why religion has such a problem - because so many people believe it but the evidence is lacking; hence the interjection of the word "faith." It's not based on evidence.
So, my stance is that if I'm to believe in such a thing as God there should be a means of empirically as well as scientifically testable evidence to support those ideas. That's how I want a God to interact with me. I want it very clear cut. That is, after all, the way he allegedly "made me".
I'm not going to go out of my way looking for images in toast, neat little events in my life that happen in a timely fashion or pondering over why my ailments were cured and call that "God". I'm not going to sit in my bed at night, read the Bible and pray that God reveal himself to me. Because even if I did feel something, how would I know which God it was? It seems to me like a trickery of the mind. I am a firm believer that you could find anything you were looking for if you put your mind to it. I could probably read The Hobbit and pray to the ghost of J.R.R. Tolkien to reveal himself to me and if I really wanted it to happen I could make an association of something in his books as well as my life as being "proof enough for me".
So, what evidence, act, or proof should a God provide? Proof so clear that not only would it extinguish all arguments about whether or not God exists but also extinguish any argument about which God exists. As far as what that is. I'll let him figure it out. That's apparently what he's so good at.
P.S. - Merely inserting something such as "DNA", "Computers", or "Nuclear Missiles" in one of his ancient texts would have been a good start. Would it have been so hard to divinely inspire one of the authors to just mention DNA for one quick second? That would have really been a good start.
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I think that if there is an omnipotent deity that wants us to worship him that he would know how to interact with each individual person's unique mindset. I'm sorry, thousands of years old books written in cryptic format just don't settle it for me.
Not only that, but I also feel that the evidence to support not only a deity but a specific deity should be so well contrived and obvious that absolutely no one could deny it. There are so many things that just about anyone in the world can agree on. I would say that from anywhere in the world, just about everyone would agree the sun is hot, the sky is blue, and ice is cold. There is very little bickering over this because the evidence is so strong supporting these notions that you would have to be an absolute moron to disagree. Yet, the pages of history turn red with the amount of blood spilled simply over people disagreeing about whose God is the right one. That, in my opinion, is the very basis of why religion has such a problem - because so many people believe it but the evidence is lacking; hence the interjection of the word "faith." It's not based on evidence.
So, my stance is that if I'm to believe in such a thing as God there should be a means of empirically as well as scientifically testable evidence to support those ideas. That's how I want a God to interact with me. I want it very clear cut. That is, after all, the way he allegedly "made me".
I'm not going to go out of my way looking for images in toast, neat little events in my life that happen in a timely fashion or pondering over why my ailments were cured and call that "God". I'm not going to sit in my bed at night, read the Bible and pray that God reveal himself to me. Because even if I did feel something, how would I know which God it was? It seems to me like a trickery of the mind. I am a firm believer that you could find anything you were looking for if you put your mind to it. I could probably read The Hobbit and pray to the ghost of J.R.R. Tolkien to reveal himself to me and if I really wanted it to happen I could make an association of something in his books as well as my life as being "proof enough for me".
So, what evidence, act, or proof should a God provide? Proof so clear that not only would it extinguish all arguments about whether or not God exists but also extinguish any argument about which God exists. As far as what that is. I'll let him figure it out. That's apparently what he's so good at.
P.S. - Merely inserting something such as "DNA", "Computers", or "Nuclear Missiles" in one of his ancient texts would have been a good start. Would it have been so hard to divinely inspire one of the authors to just mention DNA for one quick second? That would have really been a good start.
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