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"Teaching pastor" Tom Halliday of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., preached "the Bible only gives two cases where divorce is acceptable: abandonment and a physical affair."
This is a great example of the bone-headed and male dominant foundations of this unique branch of today's Christianity. This pastor has more in common with the mullahs of Saudi Arabia and Iran than he knows!
Park, I cannot tell you how many miserable marriages (which included abuse) I knew about during my time in a fundamentalist church. Our church used to teach exactly the same thing - that spouses could NOT divorce unless you actually CAUGHT you other half in bed with someone else doing "the nasty." Heck, we didn't even give allowance for "abandonment." If you knew the spouse who deserted was still alive, you had to stay under the marriage contract though there were members who did find justification in getting a divorce based on some scripture in one of the books to the Corinthians.
This kind of foolishness has destroyed so many lives it is not even funny.
"Teaching pastor" Tom Halliday of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., preached "the Bible only gives two cases where divorce is acceptable: abandonment and a physical affair.
I must ask if any of you took the time to read the article prior to commenting? If so please share with us what pastor Tom Holladay suggests is the correct course of action in situations of physical abuse?
I must ask if any of you took the time to read the article prior to commenting? If so please share with us what pastor Tom Holladay suggests is the correct course of action in situations of physical abuse?
Separation and trying to work things out. The stumbling block in this "solution" is that frequently (like pedophiles) some abusers cannot alter their behavior and the abused develop a co-dependency that can trap them into "reconciliation after reconciliation" with the abuse escalating to fatal levels. Separation is NO solution and is usually a death sentence. Unfortunately . . . divorce frequently results in the same outcome . . . only sooner.
"Teaching pastor" Tom Halliday of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., preached "the Bible only gives two cases where divorce is acceptable: abandonment and a physical affair."
This is a great example of the bone-headed and male dominant foundations of this unique branch of today's Christianity. This pastor has more in common with the mullahs of Saudi Arabia and Iran than he knows!
Anti-intellectual, is putting it mildly!
Can you show me in scripture where it says that domestic abuse is a valid reason? It's a horrible, horrible thing. But to suggest that scripture advocates divorce because of abuse is wrong.
If a woman who was being abused came to me for counseling I'd certainly tell her to get out of the house. I also doubt that I'd ever tell a woman to go back to her abusive hubby. Ever. Even if he showed signs of changing.
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Originally Posted by DaniMae1
What a jerk.
Do you think that he was just trying to give his personal opinion? That's what the scripture says. He was teaching it. I'd rather have a pastor that didn't get scared away from the tough stuff. Too many pastors today aren't brave enough to actually teach what the scriptures say.
Can you show me in scripture where it says that domestic abuse is a valid reason? It's a horrible, horrible thing. But to suggest that scripture advocates divorce because of abuse is wrong.
If scripture doesn't say that domestic abuse is a good enough reason for a divorce I would advise anyone who's being abused to dump the scripture and look elsewhere for advice.
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