why cant religions stay out of it? (prophecies, Jerusalem, Israel)
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I also believe murder, rape, incest and a lot of other things are wrong. Even if you disagree though, you still don't have a right to do those things.
How does one "do" a sexual orientation?
How do you "do" heterosexuality?
How is sexual orientation linked to things like murder, rape and incest?
If you are going to try to discuss this topic, then could you please get up to speed on what homosexuality actually is? Otherwise your posts just don't make any sense.
How is sexual orientation linked to things like murder, rape and incest?
If you are going to try to discuss this topic, then could you please get up to speed on what homosexuality actually is? Otherwise your posts just don't make any sense.
Careful where you throw around scientific facts...some religious people would see that as against gods word and that science is infact evil in some cases.
I am curious to know why religions have to get so involved with things like gay marriage and other issues? Why does it always come down to the bible for members of most religious groups? Why cant Religious people simply just offer a bible to someone and leave it be...why do you have to force your ways on others?
Because they are controlled and are, in turn, controlling.
Simple.
Tragic.
The only way to counter them is through radical (root) liberation.
Why can't homosexuals be content to just be homosexuals? Why do they have to invade a religious ceremony designed for one man and one woman? Why do they have to feel that God is OK with their sinful lifestyle?
Disingenuous, probably dishonest.
When you get divorced, do you do it in church?
No.
Marriage is a civil contract, not religious.
Guess what, there probably is no god thing, not everyone believes as you do.
I am curious to know why religions have to get so involved with things like gay marriage and other issues? Why does it always come down to the bible for members of most religious groups? Why cant Religious people simply just offer a bible to someone and leave it be...why do you have to force your ways on others?
No one can force someone to believe in God. And sometimes it's hard to just walk away from someone, especially when you know that you might be the last chance for that person to be saved from what awaits them after death.
If you saw a person who's house was on fire, yet that person was asleep on the couch, would you try to alert them to the danger?
No one can force someone to believe in God. And sometimes it's hard to just walk away from someone, especially when you know that you might be the last chance for that person to be saved from what awaits them after death.
If you saw a person who's house was on fire, yet that person was asleep on the couch, would you try to alert them to the danger?
But who has the right to decide when that persons "house" is on fire? Just because you see flames doesnt mean they do. Also, who says anyone has the right to say when someone else needs saving?
The problem with most people who use religion or the bible to back them up dont always know all the facts and they assume that someone wishes to be saved.
I am sure that homosexuals do not feel the need to be saved and since science has not proven it to be an illness but infact something that occurs naturally in humans and animals, who has the right to say otherwise.
Its like someone who thinks fishing is fun and someone who doesnt the person who likes it likes it for their own reasons and will always like it. The person who does not like it will never like it and cannot understand why the other person does.
If religious people think that a homosexuals lifestyle is "on fire" then they need to back away from the fire. Homosexuality has nothing in common with things that constitute as a crime.
You cannot compare murder and rape to homosexuality. If a group of people where to start preaching that religion was bad and infact evil...most people would see it as a joke and not take it serious, why you ask? becasue Religious belief is a personal choice as is sexuality and most other things that humans do.
No one can force someone to believe in God. And sometimes it's hard to just walk away from someone, especially when you know that you might be the last chance for that person to be saved from what awaits them after death.
You know you're right, no one can force someone to believe in your God and if they choose not to it is very easy to walk away it's just that some people choose not to for their own purpose, I have found that many Christians seem to take great pleasure in themselves for having thinking that they have saved somebody else's soul from what they consider to be hell and damnation, when in reality they haven't really saved anybody but themselves, that's their agenda.
If you saw a person who's house was on fire, yet that person was asleep on the couch, would you try to alert them to the danger?
This analogy has absolutely nothing to do with religion or the belief thereof, it's a common sense thing that you of course would let your neighbor know if their house was on fire, it has nothing to do with religion. Besides he might already be standing out on the curb instead of sleeping on the couch.
When you get divorced, do you do it in church?
No.
Marriage is a civil contract, not religious.
Guess what, there probably is no god thing, not everyone believes as you do.
exactly, how could marriage be seen purely as a religious right if divorce is seen as a civil right that is done by the courts. A church could not grant you a divorce and since no marriage is recognized as legal unless validated by the government with a license.
The simple fact that their is a contract to be married proves that it is not just reserved as a religious right.
You can say you are married all you want but unless you have that license you are not. If the government took away the benefits for being married that are clearly stated in that license I guarantee you that most married couples who are married in a church would have a fit. By this reaction alone you cannot tell me that religions hold the bond that is marriage as their own.
If they truely saw it as their own then they would be able to get married in a church without a marriage license and would not care to get the legal benefits that come with marriage.
So If you want to deny two people regardless of sexual preference from getting the same benefits as a married couple the only logical thing to do would be to take all legal benefits away from all legal and governmentaly recognized marriage. Then and only then would it be fare to deny homosexuals the ability to have those same rights. The only way to solve this is to be equal on both sides.
So would any of you who do not support homosexual marriage allow the government to take away the legal rights that comes with being married? NO, most wouldnt.
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You get divorced through government, not church
