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Old 11-19-2009, 01:51 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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the greatest accomplishment of satan in this age was to convince us he does not exist.
Of course it would, thats always been satans goal.
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:21 AM
 
Location: OKC
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According to the bible, God killed a lot more innocent people than Satan did.
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:38 AM
 
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the greatest accomplishment of satan in this age was to convince us he does not exist.
I always hear that from Christians, but wouldn't his great accomplishment be to convince others that God does not exist? Somehow whoever wrote that about his convincing others that he doesn't exist got it wrong.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:02 AM
 
Location: NC, USA
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the greatest accomplishment of satan in this age was to convince us he does not exist.
Two of the finest accomplishments of man is the realization that neither satan nor god exist.

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Old 11-19-2009, 09:53 AM
 
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"Yet Bustamante had tried to commit suicide at age 13 and had been receiving mental health treatment for depression and cutting herself"

I wonder if she was on anti-depressants..
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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"Yet Bustamante had tried to commit suicide at age 13 and had been receiving mental health treatment for depression and cutting herself"

I wonder if she was on anti-depressants..
You know I wondering the same thing too. The counselors and doctors are way too quick to prescribe anti-depressants for these youth today and too many parents are way too quick in saying "okay." It seems to me that their chemistry is screwed up enough without introducing those drugs.

Rather than teaching the youth how deal with life and its disappointments and hardships (that go hand-in-hand with its joys), too many adults are taking what they perceive as the easy route and look for a magic pill to cure everything. Dope 'em up...yeah that's the answer. Not only does it mess the kids chemistry up more, but I think it sends the wrong message.

This kid committed a horrible crime and I do wonder if I would feel the same if I was the victim's father. At the same time I can't help but think that this girl was let down by her own family and the counselors.

To the original question...yeah, there is evil out there. Is it caused by some outside supernatural force? Of course not. Evil is caused by man. The causes of evil are far more complicated than just assigning it to some devil or demon. That's a cop out and releases people from the responsibility to actually do something about it. "Hey, if it's the devil and there's really nothing I can do about it, I'll just pray that Jesus comes quickly and takes the evil away." Yeah, so much better than confronting the real reasons for evil.

Maybe if the family in question took a good look at themselves and asked if they were living up to their responsibilites, they might have found that they were the reason for this child's depression. Hard to say, but many parents do not take their responsibilities as seriously as older generations. Playstation 3, DVD, the Cartoon Network, cell phones and teachers are doing way too much parenting these days.

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Old 11-19-2009, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Playstation 3, DVD, the Cartoon Network, cell phones and teachers are doing way too much parenting these days.
The OP asked whether or not anyone believes that evil exists. I suspect that it does, and its names are Playstation, XBox, YouTube, and Twitter.

It's time to start updating quotations. "Get thee behind me, YouTube!"
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Kentucky
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For what it's worth, my gut tells me there are two victims in this story.

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The OP asked whether or not anyone believes that evil exists. I suspect that it does, and its names are Playstation, XBox, YouTube, and Twitter.

It's time to start updating quotations. "Get thee behind me, YouTube!"
I love my Xbox..............but I don't let my kids play it.
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:45 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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For what it's worth, my gut tells me there aretwo victims in this story.



I love my Xbox..............but I don't let my kids play it.
I agree, theres a story there, not to diminish the grief the parents
of the victim are feeling.

Fred314X
Don't blame it on Xbox and Playstation, millions are sold everyday, I seriously doubt it has any bearing on why this girl
took someone elses life.

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Old 11-20-2009, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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I agree, theres a story there, not to diminish the grief the parents
of the victim are feeling.

Fred314X
Don't blame it on Xbox and Playstation, millions are sold everyday, I seriously doubt it has any bearing on why this girl
took someone elses life.
The point got lost somewhere...XBox and Playstation are not the cause of this nor the games they are playing. My point was that too many parents are abdicating their parental responsibilities.
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