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Old 01-01-2010, 02:58 PM
 
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It is my personal opinion that if the NT were to be taught in all public schools as a lesson in History, it would drematically change people's idea of what religion is. Any kind of theology probably wouldn't even be necessary. Just a lesson in why and how the NT was put together. There is a HUGE amount of people that consider all religion to be fairytale mind control, without an inkling of how it is supposed to be percieved. Not teaching the NT as a lesson in History to appease those that choose to deny the truth opens the door to the possibility that it is not a Testament of the truth. So in a sense, by not teaching the NT as a lesson in History in our public school system actually reinforces the idea that the NT is nothing but rubbish that doesn't deserve any respect. That's the idea you end up walking away with as a young student.
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:00 PM
 
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Unless it's willful ignorance...Lots of that going around on these threads.

Willful ignorance....The practice or act of intentional and blatant avoidance, disregard or disagreement with facts, empirical evidence and well-founded arguments because they oppose or contradict your own existing personal beliefs.

This practice is most commonly found in the political or religious ideologies of "conservative" Americans.

Many times it is practiced due to laziness--people not wanting to have to do the work to rethink their opinions, the fear of the unknown, the fear of being wrong, or sometimes simply close-mindedness.
Could be he is questioning his own beliefs and trying to get other points of view.
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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It is my personal opinion that if the NT were to be taught in all public schools as a lesson in History...


There is a HUGE amount of people that consider all religion to be fairytale mind control...
Normally there is an effort to at least try and get at the truth (peer reviewed, academic critique, etc. or worse, the Department of "Education" recommendation) before something is considered "valid enough" to be taught as a history lesson. Perhaps the bible could be included in a mythology course or something.



Why do you suppose a lot of people think religion is fairy tale and mind control?
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:24 PM
 
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Could be he is questioning his own beliefs and trying to get other points of view.
Unlikely! I think Montana summed it nicely when he said...
"The OP makes a list of statements about God as though they are irrefutable facts and then asks atheists these questions in such a way that it sounds as though atheists just can't deal with reality."

The OP appears to me to be very much a case of.... 'What the hell is wrong with you guys. Why don't you believe in what is obvious'.
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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Unlikely! I think Montana summed it nicely when he said...
"The OP makes a list of statements about God as though they are irrefutable facts and then asks atheists these questions in such a way that it sounds as though atheists just can't deal with reality."

The OP appears to me to be very much a case of.... 'What the hell is wrong with you guys. Why don't you believe in what is obvious'.
Just giving him the benefit of doubt.
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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Just giving him the benefit of doubt.
Don't go soft on 'em dude!
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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Don't go soft on 'em dude!
Lol.
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:56 PM
 
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Normally there is an effort to at least try and get at the truth (peer reviewed, academic critique, etc. or worse, the Department of "Education" recommendation) before something is considered "valid enough" to be taught as a history lesson. Perhaps the bible could be included in a mythology course or something.



Why do you suppose a lot of people think religion is fairy tale and mind control?

THere is far more credible evidence that proves the NT to be true than most other things they teach in History. Not teaching it as history submits to the idea that it might all be lies and fairytales is where the attitude towards the NT is born. As it is, we are a Nation of athiests, bowing to the unfounded ideas of atheism that the NT is not worthy of considerating as true testimony, giving more credance that there are multible truths, and having faith in the wisdom of people is moot, as there is no such thing as truth and rightousness. Only a world where whatever you want to believe is what the truth is, regardless of the facts. As it is we reinforce the people to share the same attitude Muhammad had towards the NT by not educating them the historical facts behind the making of the NT.

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Old 01-01-2010, 03:59 PM
 
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THere is far more credible evidence that proves the NT to be true than most other things they teach in History.
You are a liar.
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Old 01-01-2010, 04:35 PM
 
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It is my personal opinion that if the NT were to be taught in all public schools as a lesson in History, it would drematically change people's idea of what religion is. Any kind of theology probably wouldn't even be necessary. Just a lesson in why and how the NT was put together. There is a HUGE amount of people that consider all religion to be fairytale mind control, without an inkling of how it is supposed to be percieved. Not teaching the NT as a lesson in History to appease those that choose to deny the truth opens the door to the possibility that it is not a Testament of the truth. So in a sense, by not teaching the NT as a lesson in History in our public school system actually reinforces the idea that the NT is nothing but rubbish that doesn't deserve any respect. That's the idea you end up walking away with as a young student.
Would it also be taught how the NT was compiled by a bunch of state approved bishops under the direction of the Emperor at a Roman resort town?
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