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Old 01-21-2010, 05:27 PM
 
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I'm curious as to the best arguments supporting creationism. By creationism, I'm referring to the idea that a Creator created matter and species as is.

For example, people who believe in evolution have physical evidence such as species having similar skeleton structures, fossil evidence, geograpic distribution of similiar looking species, etc. What do people who believe creationism say to best support their argument?
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Old 01-22-2010, 06:31 AM
 
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Ah. Well, I was going to say First cause and zones of comfort. But, if you limit it to the development of life, I can only say the remaining doubts about abiogenesis.

There are the DNA codes (Zipf's law) and animal intelligence arguments, but they don't actually stand up very well. Apart from that, there are (while I think of it) no arguments FOR creationism, only arguments for evolution which Creationists try to refute.

P.s Yep. I just had a google of 'evidence for creation'. It does tend to argue 'something mustha dunnit'. Apart from that it is all (not very well informed) objections to evolution.

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Old 01-22-2010, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Well, there are lots of hot babes in the world, confirming Eve was hot, as per all the religious artwork. She must have passed her physical traits unchanging through the generations to many women.

And what about the ugly ones? Well my friends, I have learned the hard way that it is truly dangerous and wrong to verbalize the phrase "ugly woman", so if it isn't ever said one could (maybe) argue they don't actually exist.

Therefore, I conclude creationism is 'da bomb, because there are no ugly women. That could only have happen if god made a perfect babe from a piece of man-sized prime rib and there are no genetic mutations that could lead to ugly women.

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Old 01-22-2010, 02:44 PM
 
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What are the best arguments supporting Creationism (God)?

1. the Woman. Have you seen mankind's version? It's called a blow up doll. no comparsion.
2. the Heart. GM Motors came and went out of business before it did. and they're(hearts) still coming off the
lots(prego women) in record numbers(babies) going strong. flawless and timeless design.
3. the Mind. the most powerful computer in the galaxy. created not by evolution, but by GOD. Dell and Bill Gates eat your hearts out.


GOD vs. Mankind

GOD wins

who can argue with that?
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Old 01-22-2010, 02:50 PM
 
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Assertions do no equal arguments, nice try though.
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Old 01-22-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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Moon dust!
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Old 01-22-2010, 06:58 PM
 
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I'm curious as to the best arguments supporting creationism. By creationism, I'm referring to the idea that a Creator created matter and species as is.

For example, people who believe in evolution have physical evidence such as species having similar skeleton structures, fossil evidence, geograpic distribution of similiar looking species, etc. What do people who believe creationism say to best support their argument?
The so called "physical evidence" you list here proves nothing one way or the other with respect to the origin of species.

This leaves us at the mercy of logic and philosophy (and general revelation for those inclined to believe in such). The 'time + chance + matter' hypothesis always falls short here. Complete nonsense really.
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Old 01-22-2010, 07:37 PM
 
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The so called "physical evidence" you list here proves nothing one way or the other with respect to the origin of species.
Actually, the physical evidence proves QUITE a bit about the origin of species over billions of years of evolution. It doesn't say much about the origin of life itself though - that would be covered under abiogenesis.
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Old 01-22-2010, 07:38 PM
 
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The so called "physical evidence" you list here proves nothing one way or the other with respect to the origin of species.

This leaves us at the mercy of logic and philosophy (and general revelation for those inclined to believe in such). The 'time + chance + matter' hypothesis always falls short here. Complete nonsense really.
Seriously? Your argument is that physical evidence gathered by actual scientists is worth nothing? And it certainly isn't as good as sitting around and trying to figure stuff out without recourse to physical evidence?

Wow.
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Old 01-22-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: East Coast U.S.
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Seriously? Your argument is that physical evidence gathered by actual scientists is worth nothing? And it certainly isn't as good as sitting around and trying to figure stuff out without recourse to physical evidence?
Lead on maestro!

Please explain how this so called "physical evidence" proves the 'time + chance + matter' hypothesis to be anything more than an hypothesis.
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