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Except that verse requires that heaven and earth pass away for the alleged requirements to be fulfilled. Guess what? The earth is still here.
It's a part of the early Christian tradition which expected the world to end within a few years of Jesus dying, and obviously the church had to do some creative reinterpretation to make these verses relevant after that idea turned out to be wrong.
Except that the phrase heaven and earth commonly refers to the nation of Israel in several passages. But of course, you will always take a literal interpretation when it fits your agenda.
Except that the phrase heaven and earth commonly refers to the nation of Israel in several passages. But of course, you will always take a literal interpretation when it fits your agenda.
So when it says in Genesis that god created the heavens and the Earth, we no longer have to take it literally. Great news, indeed.
If that is your motive then your heart does not desire to be righteous and therefore you won't be born again. Salvation requires a desire to turn away from sin, not a desire to sin all you want and then escape judgement at the last second.
First, let me say that I wanna smack the person who made ch**k a racial slur against the Chinese because now I can't ever type "ch**k in your armor."
So, uh, the weak point of your armor is that living a good life or being morally righteous is pretty much irrelevant. You'll just be good more or less automatically if you become saved, so living a moral life really doesn't count for much.
No, what matters, what REALLY gets you into heaven is worship. You know, bootlicking, ass kissing, brown nosing, babbling ridiculous praises, singing enough hyms to make a frog go hoarse, and generally putting this God/savior/messiah first and foremost above everyone and everything else.
That is NOT the hallmark of a good and loving God. That is the hallmark of the tinhorn dictator. It's all about the ego of this God - it isn't about what YOU do at all, aside from performing a sufficient amount of groveling.
Now, I'm pretty sure that if a cult built itself around you - and suddenly people began praising you, loving you, hanging on your every word and fulfilling your every command, you would probably feel VERY uncomfortable and would ask these people to stop.
That's because you're humble. No, no, it has nothing to do with whether or not you deserve to be worshiped because even if you were deserving, would you want the worship? This just illustrates the superior morality of humanity, that a truly good person would never feel comfortable with worship - but God/Jesus not only feels very comfortable with it, he demands and requires it. Without groveling, the door to heaven will be forever closed.
Unless, of course, it's all one great big messianic doomsday cult, and then it starts to make sense.
So when it says in Genesis that god created the heavens and the Earth, we no longer have to take it literally. Great news, indeed.
I guess in your world, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a phrase to have a double meaning. So if you want to take the route that heaven and earth must always be literal then you have a problem with Isaiah 13:13 because God uses the same phrase, but He is specifically talking about the destruction of Babylon, not the entire world.
I guess in your world, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a phrase to have a double meaning. So if you want to take the route that heaven and earth must always be literal then you have a problem with Isaiah 13:13 because God uses the same phrase, but He is specifically talking about the destruction of Babylon, not the entire world.
I'd have taken that route regardless, because no one in their right mind, and with a proper education should ever take the Book of Genesis, and much of the rest of the Bible, literally. So I guess you are screwed.
So, uh, the weak point of your armor is that living a good life or being morally righteous is pretty much irrelevant. You'll just be good more or less automatically if you become saved, so living a moral life really doesn't count for much.
No, what matters, what REALLY gets you into heaven is worship. You know, bootlicking, ass kissing, brown nosing, babbling ridiculous praises, singing enough hyms to make a frog go hoarse, and generally putting this God/savior/messiah first and foremost above everyone and everything else.
That is NOT the hallmark of a good and loving God. That is the hallmark of the tinhorn dictator. It's all about the ego of this God - it isn't about what YOU do at all, aside from performing a sufficient amount of groveling.
This is a significant misunderstanding, Shirina . . . although it is probably all too typical of those who claim to be Christian. What matters is that we "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't. Everything else is irrelevant. Worship is NOT for God. It is a way to aid US in achieving closeness to God and His love for us all. It facilitates and fosters the "love of God and each other" we are to try to achieve daily. Unfortunately, it has been corrupted by the very attitude and misunderstanding that you have expressed. It is a travesty of major proportions.
This is a significant misunderstanding, Shirina . . . although it is probably all too typical of those who claim to be Christian. What matters is that we "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't. Everything else is irrelevant. Worship is NOT for God. It is a way to aid US in achieving closeness to God and His love for us all. It facilitates and fosters the "love of God and each other" we are to try to achieve daily. Unfortunately, it has been corrupted by the very attitude and misunderstanding that you have expressed. It is a travesty of major proportions.
Loving each other requires no God and definitely not worshiping of some egotistical maniac.
Except that the phrase heaven and earth commonly refers to the nation of Israel in several passages. But of course, you will always take a literal interpretation when it fits your agenda.
Interesting how uncomfortable bits of the Bible are hand-waved away as metaphor. And nice try at a personal attack to hide that fact. Good luck with that approach, maybe you'll fool someone - or at least yourself.
Interesting how uncomfortable bits of the Bible are hand-waved away as metaphor. And nice try at a personal attack to hide that fact. Good luck with that approach, maybe you'll fool someone - or at least yourself.
Interesting how your side exclusively focuses on the bits that you deem as uncomfortable, and refuses to examine the Bible as a whole. That's not an honest evaluation, IMO.
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