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Old 05-13-2016, 12:29 PM
 
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Here in Florida communities like the OPs have both a board (made up of owners) and an offsite HOA that maintains property, conducts all background/credit checks, must approve all applicants/leases, and they are the ones that enforce the by laws. It's the HOA that issues the citations....not the condo board.
You may be confusing a management company with the condo board. It is possible for the property to be a condominium and to be burdened with BOTH an involuntary membership condo corp as well as an HOA corp. However, that is not what the OP has described. A condo will always have a condo corporation - it's a statutory form of ownership and that's part of the statute. The management company, however, is an agent of the condo corporation - not another HOA. In any event all of this appeared to come from the condo corporation and people routinely incorrectly label condo corporations as HOAs in this forum.

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we had a neighbor who had a guest that didn't have a parking pass; the car was towed. The guest tried to claim it was stolen...it was rather comical to see them pitching a fit in the parking lot when they realized their car was 'gone'. The police showed up but once they found out what happened, they left and told them to deal with the HOA. The same thing is going to happen if she tried to claim her bike was stolen...the police won't do anything....her landlord needs to deal with the HOA.
It's not comical to have your car stolen and to have the police refuse to get involved.

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Side note....the guest knew they were illegally parked and yet continued to do so..the owner also knew they were illegally parked and let them continue to do so. The result? One got to pay a towing company and the other paid the HOA fine.
"Illegally"? Condo corp and HOA corp "rules" are not laws nor are the condo/HOA corp juries, judges, or police. They have no business "fining" anyone.
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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Get a free bike from Craigslist and put it on the rack to see who's taking it. Or just keep the bike and ride it.
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Back and Beyond
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Even in gated communities, it's never a good idea to leave a bike outside not locked up. In retrospect, you probably should of got the lock first, then put the bike outside...

Did the other 8 people also not lock up their bike, or did maintenance cut the locks?
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Raleigh-Durham NC
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That's absurd! I'd call the cops and tell them someone stole my bike and you'd like to file a police report. Then let them come out and settle it with the HOA.
if you say "someone stole my bike" but do not disclose that you know that the HOA disposed of it off THEIR property in accordance with the covenants..... that would be "filing a false police report" which is a crime
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Old 05-13-2016, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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if you say "someone stole my bike" but do not disclose that you know that the HOA disposed of it off THEIR property in accordance with the covenants..... that would be "filing a false police report" which is a crime
Well, then say, "I put my bike outside. When I got up the next morning it was gone."
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Old 05-13-2016, 07:46 PM
 
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if you say "someone stole my bike" but do not disclose that you know that the HOA disposed of it off THEIR property in accordance with the covenants..... that would be "filing a false police report" which is a crime
If it is a condominium then the bike wasn't on "Condo corp" property. The property you would be referring to would belong in undivided interests to the owners - NOT the condo corporation.
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Old 05-14-2016, 06:37 AM
 
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You may be confusing a management company with the condo board. It is possible for the property to be a condominium and to be burdened with BOTH an involuntary membership condo corp as well as an HOA corp. However, that is not what the OP has described. A condo will always have a condo corporation - it's a statutory form of ownership and that's part of the statute. The management company, however, is an agent of the condo corporation - not another HOA. In any event all of this appeared to come from the condo corporation and people routinely incorrectly label condo corporations as HOAs in this forum.

Nope, not confused.


It's not comical to have your car stolen and to have the police refuse to get involved.

The police will not get involved in a situation where an illegally parked car was towed. Will they come out? Sure they will, but they leave once they find out what's going on...no police report is written for a towed car.


And yes, it was funny as hell because this idiot KNEW and his resident KNEW he was illegally parked and had been warned...they chose to ignore the warnings so his car was towed.

"Illegally"? Condo corp and HOA corp "rules" are not laws nor are the condo/HOA corp juries, judges, or police. They have no business "fining" anyone.

Yes, illegally. The HOA most certainly does have a right to 'fine' someone...read the by laws..it's in black and white. If you don't like HOAs dont' live in a community with an HOA. I prefer the HOA..keeps out the rif raf.


Here in Florida, HOAs have a lot of power...google it.
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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Sweetbottoms, remember if things don't work out, you really should get restitution from your landlord (friend/family or not) who did not give you the restrictions. That person really should be the one fighting for his/her rights as you are their tenant.

There is probably even something in the bylaws that says the owner needs to give the rules to any tenant.

You seem to be the one fighting for this. However, actually the owner should pay you for your damages because of not informing you of the rules/because of perhaps not obeying the rules him/herself in not presenting you wit the rules.

And, then, that owner could do whatever with the sheriff or small claims court. But, yeah, sometimes others don't do what they're supposed to do.
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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Sweetbottoms, remember if things don't work out, you really should get restitution from your landlord (friend/family or not) who did not give you the restrictions. That person really should be the one fighting for his/her rights as you are their tenant.

There is probably even something in the bylaws that says the owner needs to give the rules to any tenant.

You seem to be the one fighting for this. However, actually the owner should pay you for your damages because of not informing you of the rules/because of perhaps not obeying the rules him/herself in not presenting you wit the rules.

And, then, that owner could do whatever with the sheriff or small claims court. But, yeah, sometimes others don't do what they're supposed to do.


The landlord should be doing the fighting, but the police will not get involved in civil matters and this is a civil matter. It's between the HOA and the property owners.


No different than having an illegally parked car towed...police wont' touch it.
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Old 05-14-2016, 07:24 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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The landlord should be doing the fighting, but the police will not get involved in civil matters and this is a civil matter. It's between the HOA and the property owners.


No different than having an illegally parked car towed...police wont' touch it.
WHY? OP is perfectly capable of getting copy of the HOA Rules & Making sure they are followed to the T.

My take is the HOA is getting complaints about Bikes & they not being put away. Today I had to call my LL. Some kid who lives in another apt building in this complex decided to drop his bike in front of my car Blocking the sidewalk leading from my apt to the curb. So here I was Stuck until the bike was removed just so I could get out & go to the store! I have no idea what they did with the bike & Frankly don't give a D***
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